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Re: [TowerTalk] Re: Dipole Longer or higher?

To: Bill Fuqua <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>, towertalk@contesting.com,towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Re: Dipole Longer or higher?
From: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:41:40 -0800
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At 10:46 AM 2/15/2005, Bill Fuqua wrote:
Why do you think the oldtimers used ceramic insulators on both the feedline and
antenna?


If matched and you have low loss feedline , a short dipole radiates just fine. But, the antenna systems Q will go up drastically. This high Q is the real problem. And just a matter of physics. No way around it. Along with the expensive components in the antenna tuner to accommodate the high circulating currents and voltages due the high antenna system Q. You could put inductance at the feed point to nullify the capacitive component of the antenna's impedance but the Q will still be high and it would only be useful at only one narrow band of frequencies.
Or put the auto tuner at the feedpoint, where it really needs to be. It won't solve the circulating reactive current problem, but it will solve the feedline loss problem.

For actual numbers...
Assuming a fairly skinny antenna(l/d=2000), a +/- 20% change in length(or frequency) results in a reactive component of some +/- 250-300 ohms (on top of the 30-100 ohm resistive component). The reactance/resistance of the antenna ranges from -7 to +2.35.


A moderately thin dipole (l/d=1250) that's 1/4 wavelength long (total... 1/8th on each side) has an impedance of about 13-713j ohms. That's a fairly large X/R ratio, implying the circulating currents will be about 50 times the radiated current.

If you assume that your matching network has a Q of say, 200, its resistance will be 713/200 or about 3.5 ohms. Combined with the self resistance of the antenna of 13 ohms, you'll lose about 20% of your power in the inductor, say, 0.7 dB? Maybe a bit more, because the antenna isn't lossless either.

Jim, W6RMK


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