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Re: RE: [BULK] - [TowerTalk] CC&Rs

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Subject: Re: RE: [BULK] - [TowerTalk] CC&Rs
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
Reply-to: w2up@mindspring.com
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:08:33 -0500
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Hasn't OTARD voided the blanket prohbition of outdoor antennas, 
permitting small dishes and TV antennas?  Has anyone tried to call a 
small tribander, usch as a F12 C3 a TV antenna to get it by the 
rules?
Barry W2UP

On 25 Mar 2004 at 13:14, mahlonhaunschild@cox.net wrote:

> CC&Rs have been around for a very long time, actually.  It's only been
> relatively recently that the outside antenna restrictions have found
> their way into CC&Rs.
> 
> Mine are from the early 1970s.  They make for some interesting reading
> (mostly in terms of what's not in them, rather than what is). 
> Needless to say, they are completely silent on the subject of antennas
> of any sort.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Mahlon - K4OQ
> > 
> > From: Steve Katz <stevek@jmr.com>
> > Date: 2004/03/25 Thu PM 12:01:55 EST
> > To: 'Alan Beagley' <AB2OS@att.net>, 
> >     TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Subject: RE: [BULK] - [TowerTalk] CC&Rs
> > 
> > Of course they did, and FCC's response was they were not going to
> > deal with this at all, at this time (as of two years ago).  The
> > recommendation was to approach Congress via your elected Senators
> > and Representatives to see if someone would float a bill.  That's
> > slowly garnering support, but who knows if 525 members of Congress
> > can find a simple majority to rule on this?
> > 
> > Normally, in the absence of a Homeowner Association or some
> > owner-elected body, there is no one to enforce CC&Rs.  These are
> > private deed restrictions, not involving government agencies.
> > 
> > I'm impressed (and somewhat amazed) your own CC&Rs do not restrict
> > outside antennas.  If that's really the case, those are great CC&Rs,
> > and very unlike most I've read.  Could you possibly scan a copy of
> > the docs and post them somewhere we can download them, to serve as a
> > framework for authoring future CC&Rs which are more "ham friendly?" 
> > That would be a great service.
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> > Steve WB2WIK/6
> > 
> > "Success is the ability to go from failure to failure with no loss
> > of enthusiasm." -Winston Churchill
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:     Alan Beagley [SMTP:AB2OS@att.net]
> > > Sent:     Thursday, March 25, 2004 9:09 AM
> > > To:       TowerTalk
> > > Subject:  [BULK] - [TowerTalk] CC&Rs
> > > 
> > > Just out of curiosity (since the legal advice I received assured
> > > me that 
> > >   the CC&Rs relating to my home do not outlaw antennas and
> > >   towers):
> > > 
> > > I know that attempts are being made in various States to have
> > > PRB-1 apply to properties subject to Homeowners' Associations. But
> > > what about properties with "Restrictive Covenants," CC&Rs, etc.
> > > that outlaw antennas and "run with the land" and are therefore
> > > technically enforceable (by whom I am not sure -- by the courts at
> > > the instigation of one's neigbors?) even in the absence of a
> > > Homeowners' Association? Have the attempts to widen the scope of
> > > PRB-1 dealt with this situation?
> > > 
> > > Alan AB2OS
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > 
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> > > 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> > > 
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> _______________________________________________
> 
> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers",
> "Wireless Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free,
> 1-800-333-9041 with any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> 
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--
Barry Kutner, W2UP              Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA                     Frankford Radio Club
        

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See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless Weather 
Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any questions 
and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.

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