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[Towertalk] 40M 4 Sq vs. 2 el Yagi at 70 ft

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Subject: [Towertalk] 40M 4 Sq vs. 2 el Yagi at 70 ft
From: w8aef@worldnet.att.net (Paul Playford)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 04:18:27 -0000
A near-by DXer (4 element full size 40m yagi at 100 feet) and I (4 sq phased
array,
elevated radials) have concluded, there are vertical nights and there are
horizontal nights.  I rate my 4 sq as between a 2 element and 3 element full
sized yagi, but that is subjective.  If I had the resources I would have
both, that is a full size 3 or 4 element yagi at 100 feet and my 4 square
with the elevated radials.

At one time I had a 2 element linearly loaded yagi at 90 feet and was not
happy with it's performance, gain or F/B.

de Paul, W8AEF


----- Original Message -----
From: "Wes Cosand" <wz7i@arrl.net>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:59 AM
Subject: [Towertalk] 40M 4 Sq vs. 2 el Yagi at 70 ft


> K7LXC's recent comment about yagis vs. 4 square arrays got me
> thinking.  Has someone done a careful comparison of these two antennas for
> 40 meters?
>
> I have relocated and have to build a new station and I am torn between
> these two alternatives.  Although performance is important, the station
> will not necessarily be used for contesting.  The initial cost is not as
> important as reliability and freedom from maintenance.
>
> I have previously had a 40M 4 square that was carefully installed with the
> DX Engineering phasing network.  I was never tremendously impressed with
> the performance but I never had the opportunity to compare it to a
> yagi.  And it certainly didn't require much care and feeding-- it just
worked.
>
> I had decided to replace the vertical array at the new station with a 2
> element yagi at 70 or 80 feet, perhaps 12 feet above my five band
> beam.  But the 40M yagi means that the total installation will be much
> higher than the 50 or 60 feet tower I could get by with if 20 meters was
my
> lowest freq antenna.  The tower and rotor must be significantly
> beefier,  and I am concerned that it will add to the maintenance
> needs.  (The tower must be self supporting.)
>
> So why did ON4UN's 1998 survey indicate that among the top 100 DXers who
> responded about 40M antennas, 35% of them used 2 el yagis and only 7% used
> phased verticals?  ON4UN said his survey indicated that at that time
> Cushcraft and Hy-Gain 2 element yagis were "extremely popular on
40meters".
>
> Wes, WZ7I
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