With open wire line, an 80M dipole can be used on ALL bands,
where impedances may vary from 50 to 5000 ohms. A 5000
ohm impedance represents a 100 to 1 SWR on coax but "only"
10 to 1 SWR on open wire line and the total losses are reasonable.
I LOVE using my 80M dipoles as current fed long wires on the
WARC bands where they perform very well, even with coax feed,
since they are odd multiples of 1/2 WL on 30, 17, and 12M.
de Tom N4KG
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:37:02 +0000 alsopb <alsopb@gloryroad.net> writes:
>
> Egads,
>
> Is open wire so "superior" to today's coax that it's worth all this?
>
> de Brian/K3KO
>
>
> K7GCO@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 14.11.99 20:40:51 Pacific Standard Time, K7GCO
> writes:
> >
> > << In regard to running open wire line into a basement:
> > I ran open wire into the basement by drilling 1/4" holes in
> the house
> > wall of wood and ran insulated open wire line through the holes
> into a
> > basement. This hole is easy to plug and paint later. You can
> slip a sleeve
> > insulator in a bigger hole if you like. I ran the open wire line
> across the
> > basement ceiling on stand offs and drilled holes in the floor at
> the junction
> > of the floor and wall and ran the wires there beside the rug into
> the first
> > floor. If you no longer use it, the edge of the rug covers in the
> holes. I
> > ran lengths of RG8X up in the first floor the same way. Or
> replace a glass
> > window with Plexiglas and run the open wire line and/or coaxes
> right through
> > it. When finished, replace it with the original glass later.
> > Open wire line and the proper tuner is a great system and
> I've used it
> > for over 60 years. I use lengths that are 1/2 WL multiples to
> reduce
> > reactive Z's. Use 492 X .95 VF / 3.55 MHz. That's the magic
> length for all
> > bands with the 1/2 WL multiple least error. Suspend the open wire
> line off
> > the ground at least 5', short both ends and Grid Dip it to 3.55
> MHz. Use
> > solid enameled or insulated wire. The spacing can be 4-6" and the
> Z of the
> > open wire line is not critical--only the length for ease of
> matching. The
> > parallel and series configurations shown in the ARRL Handbooks
> were written
> > by those who never used them year after year. The Series
> configuration for
> > low Z loads is difficult to get to work. A series Xc variable is
> needed in
> > the link (ground the rotator) or you will have trouble getting
> matches
> > and/arcing with either one. Use RF ammeters or light bulbs
> shunted with just
> > the right amount of wire in the output for balance and maximizing
> output.
> > Use light bulbs with pig tails and clips and adjust shunt length
> for
> > brightness. To extend low range RF ammeters range, shunt with
> knife
> > switch--for 2 ranges. Or you can just clamp it right on the wire.
> RF
> > ammeters are getting hard to find now--I bought them all.
> Experiment with
> > different LC ratios in the tank circuit and number of turns in the
> link for
> > maximum output or no arcing. Start with 2 turns. I've even used
> coax with a
> > half wave of coax connected to give a balanced coax to feed an
> ungrounded
> > link on 6M. This tuner was balanced on both ends. No TVI on 6 m
> either. A
> > 2 element quad was fed with 100 ohm balanced coax.
> > The Johnson MB with the modifications I've given on TT is
> the best
> > tuner of all to use. If you ever use it to match 100 ohm balanced
> coax there
> > is at trick you must know or you can get into trouble. I found
> this out when
> > I had RF ammeters in each leg and SWR bridges in each of the 50
> ohm series
> > connected coaxes. What can happen is not believable unless you
> see it and is
> > highly disputed by those who have never seen it and are experts in
> everything
> > from child birth to reincarnation without ever experiencing
> either? The cure
> > is also simple.
> > I also use a balanced L network with 2 variables and
> inductors all on
> > one shaft. It has this strange thing happening also with a simple
> cure.
> > This tuner matches a variety of balanced loads with smaller
> components also.
> > I had one installation where I had 750 watts in the 50 ohm
> link (RF
> > ammeter in link and 1:1 SWR) and 700 watts in the antenna using
> 450 ohm line
> > and a balanced 150 ohm quarter wave coaxial stub and a balanced 28
> ohm
> > coaxial stub to match 16 ohms at a beam. There was 3.87 RF Amps
> in the
> > Collins KW-1 RF ammeter and the tuner RF ammeter in the link 1/4
> WL away of
> > 50 ohm coax on 20 M. You have 1:1 SWR if 1/4 WL away the current
> is still
> > the same (I didn't have a 50 SWR bridge then). I later made one
> of coax
> > similar to the "Twin 'Bulb 300 ohms SWR Indicator." I still have
> a picture
> > of the tuner from 1953--and the KW-l. The SWR was flat on the 70'
> of 450
> > line. I could take an RF ammeter and shunt it on either line
> anywhere and it
> > read the same value of 1.27A as I remember. .3 dB loss is not bad
> from input
> > to tuner to input to antenna--if not a record (6.61 A in the
> feedpoint).
> > If you have 1:1 SWR at the input of the tuner and nothing is
> heating or
> > arcing, you have 100% transfer of power less the feedline and
> tuner losses.
> > There are some exceptions. The one main advantage of a tuner and
> open wire
> > line is that you can get maximum transfer of power all over the
> band also.
> > All the coax problems, high cost and limitations go away. Rain
> has no
> > affect--isn't that nice? I have one length of open wire line I
> made 60 years
> > ago I still use--enameled #12. #12 or 10 House wire with the
> plastic
> > insulation works well. Don't use stranded bare copper wire. I
> use insulated
> > wire now and it has a lower velocity factor depending on the
> insulation--and
> > the number of spacers for any wire. Keep it 1' away from the
> tower.
> > Open wire is blazing a comeback. The 450 ohm ladder line is
> fairly good
> > up to 1 KW . Even 300 ohm ribbon can be used with low loss with
> loads of
> > 200-400 ohms. this minimizes the current in the small wire. Rain
> will upset
> > the dielectric. Coat it with wax.
> > Spacers can be made our of most any plastic not susceptible
> to UV.
> > Don't use wooden dowels boiled in wax. I could hear arcing in the
> spacers at
> > 600 watts. 3/8" delrin is a great spacer. Drill holes in the
> ends that just
> > slip over the wire and secure it's position every 1 1/2'-2' with
> epoxy or
> > silicone rubber. Use heavy soldering lugs at the ends.
> > I'll have long runs of 1/2 WL multiple lengths on all bands
> (my magic
> > lengths) at my new QTH in SD and I'll use open wire line. There
> are many
> > tricks in it's use. I'll be using rhombics also. I have made and
> > accumulated a large number of tank and rotary coils of 1 KW, 500W,
> 150W and
> > 75W coils from flee markets over the years. Get a Johnson MB.
> ARRL usually
> > says to use any length of open wire line or seldom recommends
> certain
> > lengths. They have set back tuners and open wire line more than
> anyone as
> > many have trouble with their recommendations--they never test
> them. Open
> > wire needs good supports for ice loading.
> > k7gco >>
> >
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