George,
I'm looking forward to my 2nd C6AGU RIB (Radio In a Box) QSO in the upcoming
Spring STEW using your teams amazing example of remote operation technologies.
I'll be using my 80' vertical totally surrounded by the saltwater of Puget
Sound near Seattle. Thanks again for my first RIB Q in 2020 ARRL 160. Keep up
the great remote station development work. Really bleeding edge stuff. Congrats
to you and the team on the amazing progress.
73
Patrick, W7TMT
-----Original Message-----
From: Topband <topband-bounces+w7tmt=outlook.com@contesting.com> On Behalf Of
GEORGE WALLNER
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 19:31
To: Hans Hjelmström <sm6cvx@hjelmstrom.se>; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: final from me -- Remotes
Hans,
On remotes: When somebody builds a station in Haiti and operates it remotely,
he has just enabled people to work Haiti, which may not happen otherwise. As
long as there is no pretense of something else, I think its great.
73,
George,
AA7JV/C6AGU
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 21:39:49 +0100
Hans Hjelmström <sm6cvx@hjelmstrom.se> wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> Been reading all sayings about FT8/FT4-business .
> MYSELF I will NEVER ever use FT4 or FT 8. Been active Ham-operator
> since 1961. I am now 75 years old,and still active,and dx-expeditioner.
>
> I say, this PC to PC business kills the challenge of our hobby.
> I agree 100% with OK1RR and OK1TN and SP2XF writing.AND others.
>
> Of course, IF you like FT 4/FT 8 ,its up to you to use it.
> If I do NOT like it, it must be acceptable for me to tell other Hams ,
> I feel I do NOT like it. And I will NEVER use it.
>
> In Sweden ,I know ,,,a LOT of Hams ( old-timers mainly ,but also new
> Hams) , that has stopped Ham-radio and sold all their equipment because of
> this PC to PC play game.
>
> WHY. Well, they have always been chasing dx, by looking for hours ,
> and with their own ears finally heard the weak dx, and they called the
> dx on CW/SSB/RY using their challenge and equipment built during many
> many years. And when not looking for expeditions, they have made nice chat on
> CW/SSB/RY with other Hams world-wide, talking and making social
> connection.Never mind if they have a big or smaller station.
>
> How can we say its Ham-radio, when a dx-operator is using FT8/FT 4 and
> making so called QSO:s on two or even more ( up to 3 bands ) at the
> same time. YES, its technically super, BUT is this what we want ???
>
> I think ARRL/dxcc should make a separate class for this FT 8/FT 4
> business. NOT accept it for BAND/DXCC. It is NOT fair to let it
> compete with CW/SSB/RY for BAND/DXCC.
>
>Finally ,last thing,why I do NOT like it. Before a dx-expedition were
>on 6 or 160 meters during ALL expedition.NOW they share it with FT8/FT
>4 and we have less time to do a real QSO. AND for no expedition, I prefer to
>make a QSO and exchange information,and try to learn about the other person I
>work. Not just to click on a yellow line.
> I will NEVER send a DONATION for a FT8 -expedition.
>
> Last outside this FT 8-business. I also must say, that this
> remote-story is under NO control. YES, of course ,you can build a
> station less than
> 150 kilometers or so from your home.PERFECT. BUT build a station in
> Haiti and sit and operate it from NYC, THATS really killing the
> pleasure to work a new one.
>
> Thanks for letting me give my feelings. I will NOT react on any replies.
>
>From MAY until AUGUST I will be around 50098 CW ( ONLY ) looking for
>dx I can hear in my ears. Last season I worked 7 stations in California
>( info for K9YC ).So IF there had been no FT8-business, I am sure I had
>worked at least 20.One day there was a 4 hours opening to all over USA
>,east to west, and I worked 25 stations in 4 hours. IF it had been before all
>of these Hams were on FT8 ,I had worked 100……...
>
> Kind regards
>
> SM6CVX ( Since 1961 ) Hans
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