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Re: Topband: Vertical choke needed?

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Subject: Re: Topband: Vertical choke needed?
From: Artek Manuals <Manuals@ArtekManuals.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 05:19:36 -0500
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Jim/ K9YC

I am with you 100% on your comments below

my 80/ 160 verticals all run "10 lbs of ferrite" at the feed points but that is because I run elevated non resonant radials these days. 5lbs of ferrites just got to warm to touch, but that is fodder for a whole different thread.� My "jungle" makes running ground mounted radial systems unpractical.

Among other things� with my wire T's and L's I also avoid coax runs that are multiples of odd 1/4 waves at the frequency of interest which helps ( how much ?)� didn't measure it a the time, but the Winkeyer stopped locking up ......:)

Dave
NR1DX

On 1/1/2021 4:19 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 12/31/2020 5:01 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
Hi Ken

Chokes at both ends of the feed line are always a good idea.

At the base of the antenna, yes, so that the feedline doesn't become a radial. More are probably wasted money. See my latest Cookbook at k9yc.com/publish.htm

I have a similar setup to you but with elevated radials and I have Mix 31 chokes right at the base of the antenna with an UNUN since I am using 75 ohm coax and then more chokes at the antenna switch.

You can�t use enough chokes.

The only good reasons I've discovered for using chokes on feedlines anywhere but at the feedpoint are 1) to break up the feedline into lengths that won't be parasitic becoming parasitic elements to other verticals; and 2) to prevent noise pickup by a mechanism quantified as the Transfer Impedance of the cable, whereby shield current is converted to a differential voltage inside the cable.

W3LPL has observed that #2 should not be an issue with coax laying on the ground. I am not so optimistic with the CATV RG6 we often use for RX antennas, whose shields are VERY flimsy at MF, but I always value Frank's observations.

As to chokes at the station -- if they solve problems, they're putting a band-aid on badly done (or missing) grounding and bonding. See N0AX's ARRL book on the topic, and/or the slide deck for my talks about it.

http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

73, Jim K9YC



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