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Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: K5P good job !

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Subject: Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: K5P good job !
From: "John Harden, D.M.D." <jhdmd@bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:47:23 -0500
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Great to hear the dialogue!! I have been chasing DX since the summer of 1959... Those who don't get through are never happy... It takes big antennas, maximum legal power, and some operating skill.

It sort of like being in a combat theater. It only matters who is still standing the next day. The enemy does, nor never has, adhered to the accords of the Geneva convention...

We all forget to go split sometimes. Naturally that provokes a barrage of "Foxtrot United's". I never take it personally..

73 ,

John, W4NU
K4JAG, 1959 to 1998

On 1/18/2016 1:40 PM, Larry via Topband wrote:
hi roger,


just what do you mean by "calling on top of someone else"? of course they are since a 
rare station creates so many callers that it is impossible to find a calling frequency that is 
clear. even if it seems clear doesn't mean that it actually is. there are probably tons of stations 
that you can't hear. for those who do not have the ability to "dual receive" do you 
expect them to check their TX frequency before transmitting? i would guess that you have never been 
on the DX end of the pile up.


if you want a clear frequency then try this- if the DX announces he is 
listening between 14205 and 14210 then cluster spot him listening on 14209.5. 
80% of the callers will move up which gives you the best chance when you call 
between 14205 and 14206. it's a PILE UP my friend, almost everything goes.


also, would you please include your call sign to the comments that you make. i 
am replying to roger who?


73,
larry
n7dd

The big problem is that this "system" works! It's simple statistics. The more
times you
send your call, the better chance of the DX picking it out of a pileup.

I don't think the people that do this give a rats behind if they're calling on
top of
someone else. They are like people who cut in line ahead of you. It's all about
them!

73, Roger




-----Original Message-----
From: Roger D Johnson <n1rj@roadrunner.com>
To: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2016 3:45 pm
Subject: Re: Topband: K5P good job !

The big problem is that this "system" works! It's simple statistics. The more
times you
send your call, the better chance of the DX picking it out of a pileup.

I don't think the people that do this give a rats behind if they're calling on
top of
someone else. They are like people who cut in line ahead of you. It's all about
them!

73, Roger


On 1/18/2016 10:00 AM, mstangelo@comcast.net wrote:
When someone is doing something wrong we should not "out" or embarrass them.

You should try to settle the situation offline without leaving any bad feelings.

If you know the offender you should discuss it with him (or her) person to 
person. Be diplomatic.

Don't lecture to them, discuss it with them. You have noticed they are doing 
something which interferes with good operating practices and also mention that 
other listeners have noted the fact.

If you cannot contact the person you can mention the offense on a contesting or 
DX'ing forum such as this

I find it is better to show them the way.

Mike N2MS




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