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Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

To: <donovanf@starpower.net>, "Bill Wichers" <billw@waveform.net>
Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 14:14:00 -0400
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Not according to the folks that invented them Frank. The Big Grip is a Guy Grip for serious towers.

http://www.preformed.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_phocadownload%26view%3Dcategory%26download%3D44:plp-commcatsec20-2012%26id%3D15:strand-and-cable-products%26Itemid%3D145&rct=j&frm=1&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ei=nqoIVJWDDcmayAT5hoHQDA&ved=0CBQQFjAA&sig2=1aPQDpfnvYFm8XWlxXxgjw&usg=AFQjCNEns72sjImeKDRibuLmm62WL9bSqA

The Preform name is often used as a noun by cable apes (-;

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- From: <donovanf@starpower.net>
To: "Bill Wichers" <billw@waveform.net>
Cc: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff


Tower guys should use Big Grips, not the performs used by electric utilities. You can purchase Big Grips from Texas Towers and many other suppliers

73
Frank
W3LPL

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Wichers &lt;billw@waveform.net&gt;
To: Carl &lt;km1h@jeremy.mv.com&gt;, topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:31:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

If you only need a few like this, try calling some of the utility contractors in your area. They will always have the dead ends and the guys that also do the power work will also have the insulators. They will probably be able to sell you a few without too much trouble.

BTW, the utility guys will usually call the "dead ends" "preforms" (different industry, different terminology :-), but they are the same thing. The telco/cable guys use 1/4" EHS strand for a support line for their cables so they will always have hardware for that. The preforms are cheap enough from the crew's perspective that they are occasionally used as temporary "twist ties" to hole up cable prior to lashing.

You can order the stuff from Graybar too (probably the telecom division, but the power division can get stuff too), but I don't know about their prices. I've only ever ordered by the carton at work.

 -Bill

&gt; What I need is:
&gt;
&gt; Up to 12 502 guy insulators
&gt; Up to 18 1/4" deadends/guy grips
&gt;
&gt; Individually prices from dealers is ridiculous and I dont need case loads as I &gt; bought when building the other 3 towers in 90-91 and wound up giving away
&gt; what I didnt use.
&gt;
&gt; Any help appreciated.
&gt;
&gt; Carl
&gt; KM1H
&gt;
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