Hi Charlie,
There are a lot of "entities" that we, as hams, count as countries for
DXCC credit!
It makes going for the award all that much more fun!!
73,
Ted K2QMF
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:57:03 -0500 "Charlie Cunningham"
<charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com> writes:
> Well, I will be pleased and my faith in DXCC will be restored when
> they
> delete the farce of "Scaffold Reef" - "B.S.- seven- hotel"!. As far
> as I'm
> concerned, I f you can't sleep on it and prepare meals on it - it
> ain't a
> "country"! I by any stretch of the imagination! ( I did work BS7H
> and have
> it confirmed, but it's not a "country"!)
>
> 73,
> Charlie, K4OTV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Joe
> Subich, W4TV
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 3:56 PM
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: DXCC Desk?
>
>
> Herb,
>
> Get your "facts" straight ... the issues you raise happened in the
> main
> more than 20 years ago. The latest DXCC rules revision "DXCC 2000"
> has
> greatly simplified (and removed the subjectivity) from the entities
> criteria (although there are those who can't read a map properly
> and
> screw up the separation between Saba and Bonaire).
>
> The current criteria are quite simple and transparent - leaving
> very
> little "interpretation" as to what qualifies as a "political
> entity",
> or "Geographic Separation Entity". There is simply no opportunity
> for
> the backroom politics under the current rules. In that regard the
> issues about which you are kvetching have been resolved for 15
> years.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 11/18/2013 3:33 PM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote:
> > Gents... Amateur radio is supposed to be devoid of politics as
> much as
> > possible. but the more you dig the worse it gets. I once attended
> an
> > IARU Region II meeting in Jamaica and was amazed by all the
> wheeling and
> > dealing going on with DXCC accreditation at the core. That was
> nearly 50
> > years ago and it seems not much has changed. I had even heard
> that the
> > ops at 706T where banned from working any 4X4's but the sharp ops
> with a
> > wink and a nod just logged VX4*** rather than mentioning anything
> on the
> > air. Would the ARRL "DXCC Desk" discredit a single 4X4 in need of
> this
> > one? I sort of doubt it. At times there are bona fide reasons to
> make
> > exception. Also the creation of private DX preserves by the ARRL
> for
> > certain Radio Societies is legend. In fact KP5 (Desecheo) should
> never
> > have been granted DXCC status when Mona Island which permits
> visitors
> > was refused. Additionally Water Island, which KP2A fought for
> for
> > years, was clearly not part of the USVI and until recently
> administered
> > solely by the U.S. Department of interior. But so the story goes
> that
> > hams in Puerto Rico had decided to join the IARU as a distinct
> and
> > unique entity apart from the U.S. and the creation of a private
> DXCC
> > location was the price the ARRL paid to halt those plans. The
> DXCC
> > rules have been anything but consistant and have been bent and
> twisted
> > like a heavily gerrymander congressional district to purposely
> include
> > or exclude voters of certain just to satisfy some.
> >
> >
> > Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/18/2013 3:47 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> >>
> >> Len,
> >>
> >>> Why, you might ask after all this suffering, is that this
> nation
> >>> still is not recognazid as a separate entity to this very small
> >>> world of the global assembly that Ham radio really is?
> >>
> >> Ask the Serbs and Russians why they blocked Kosovar membership in
> the
> >> UN and prevented ITU from assigning a callsign block, dialing
> prefix
> >> and internet TLD? If the Serbs and Russians recognize the
> Palestine
> >> they could certainly allow Kosovo similar international
> privileges.
> >>
> >> Kosovo is recognized by the US as an "independent state" (see:
> >> http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm) and like the EU the US
> >> maintains diplomatic relations with Kosovo. Unfortunately, the
> >> DXCC Rules (see:
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/DXCC/DXCC%20Rules.pdf)
> >> do not include the US DOS "Independent States in the World"
> listing as
> >> a qualifying option for a "Political (Rule 1) Entity".
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> ... Joe, W4TV
> >>
> >>
> >
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