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Re: Topband: THE ITINERANT 160 METER ANTENNA PROJECT

To: Top Band <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: THE ITINERANT 160 METER ANTENNA PROJECT
From: Jim WA9YSD <wa9ysd@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: Jim WA9YSD <wa9ysd@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 06:05:56 -0700 (PDT)
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TOM 

You said "3.) Use the largest counterpoise possible, and use one that does not 
concentrate current, zig-zag current all around, or produce unnecessarily 
high voltages." 
 
In 300 words or less please explain again Zig-zag current?

Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith. Jim K9TF/WA9YSD


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 From: Jim WA9YSD <wa9ysd@yahoo.com>
To: Top Band <topband@contesting.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: THE ITINERANT 160 METER ANTENNA PROJECT
 

I have been clobbered every time I mention this.

Is there some one other than me that knows the following????

I had read in a Hand Book for the 1930's the 3 wire folded dipole and 2 wire 
folded dipole had a couple factor of 1. This would make this antenna the 
preferred driven element for a long yagi.

Folded dipoles are all so used when installations require long lengths of feed 
line.

Back when the Bazooka or Double Bazooka or other wise now known as coaxial 
antenna back around 1970 I think when I saw it in Ham Radio Mag.. Its coupling 
factor was around 0.9

No some had told me that later on the coupling fact was really Velocity Factor. 
Now how can the velocity factor gets interpreted as to how well a driven 
element couples when compared to gamma match elements or Dipole or a folded 
dipole or bazooka?

----See, "Ham Radio Techniques - 160-Meter Antenna Problems and Solutions," Ham 
Radio magazine,  Pg. 49, March 1990. A 3-wire version is also proposed to 
increase the radiation resistance by 9x. In the single and multi-wire folded 
versions the ground loss resistance remained constant. Note that Bill was 
obtaining his results from the K6STI antenna modeling software he was using. I 
am not familiar with that program's capabilities or accuracy and it is clear 
from the article he believed the results he obtained from it. It was the early 
days of NEC programs for PCs and many of us were just learning how to use and 
apply the antenna simulation programs. 

It is impossible
 to know the basis for his errors in this case. But Bill's contributions to 
amateur radio were vast and valuable and greatly overshadow this one slip-up. 

'73, Thomas - ac7a (Tucson) -----

 
Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith. Jim K9TF/WA9YSD
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