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Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation

To: ZR <zr@jeremy.mv.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
From: "Chortek, Robert L" <Robert.Chortek@berliner.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:44:13 -0700
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I think the idea is that a qrp station might not be heard by a station so weak 
the qrp station needs a beverage to hear him.  

Of course, one could describe circumstances where that would be true and others 
where it would not be true. 

I thought it was clever....

73

Bob/AA6VB



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On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:38 PM, "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com> wrote:

> That makes absolutely no sense when at the edge of reception.
> 
> Carl
> KM1H
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim F." <j_fitton@yahoo.com>
> To: "Milt -- N5IA" <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
> Cc: <Topband@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
> 
> 
> QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other stations
> do.
> 
> Think about that one for awhile.
> 
> jim / W1FMR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Milt -- N5IA <n5ia@zia-connection.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Milt -- N5IA <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
>> Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
>> To:
>> Cc: Topband@contesting.com
>> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 2:23 PM
>> Beverages do NOT make lightning
>> caused static crashes go away. They can
>> significantly reduce the received level of the crashes from
>> the directions
>> different from the listening direction.
>> 
>> However, in the listening direction Beverages will actually
>> "clear up" the
>> crashes being heard from that direction. In other
>> words, those crashes will
>> become the predominant ones you hear with the exception of
>> those caused by
>> local storms.
>> 
>> The crashes from the listening direction will not be as
>> strong as they will
>> be when listening on the TX antenna.
>> 
>> The points I am trying to make are:
>> 
>> 1. Beverages work VERY well.
>> 
>> 2. Beverages will NOT eliminate all static crashes.
>> 
>> 3. There is no silver bullet, but Beverages are about
>> as close to the
>> perfect solution as you can get.
>> 
>> 4. There is NO substitute for acreage. I
>> sincerely wish everyone had the
>> capability of installing Beverages. But that wish is
>> no different than my
>> wish that we all had our TX antennas at the edge of a salty
>> ocean beach.
>> So, we live with what we have.
>> 
>> Mis dos centavos,
>> 
>> de Milt, N5IA
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> From: Guy Olinger K2AV
>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:19 AM
>> 
>> Only if they have space for them.
>> 
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM, K4OWR <k2owr@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> :::: When I switch to my beverage antenna the noise pretty
>> much goes to
>> almost nothing.
>> Don't most serious operators have one....or more???
>> BILL K4OWR
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> On 3/19/2012 10:22 AM, N7DF wrote:
>> 
>> During the summer the storm static is the main obstacle to
>> top band
>> operation here 40 over nine crashes every
>> 30 seconds kind of drown out
>> everything, QRP or QRO
>> 
>> 
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