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Re: Topband: EIRP Measurement

To: Tod - ID <tod@k0to.us>
Subject: Re: Topband: EIRP Measurement
From: Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@gmail.com>
Reply-to: wrcromwell@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:49:55 -0500
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On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 19:04 -0700, Tod - ID wrote:
> In thinking about the measurement of EIRP for the new band it occurred to me 
> that this might be the time for a few folks to think about how we could 
> fabricate a "commonly calibrated" field strength meter. Such a device might 
> well be used on both 160m and the 600 kHz band. By commonly calibrated in 
> mean a device that has an agreed upon standard way to calibrate it that can 
> be done with simple methods. One thing that always intrigued me about the 
> HeathKit products was the fact that they used very simple methods to allow 
> the builder to adjust the device without expensive equipment. Sometimes that 
> meant a special circuit built into the product which was only used for 
> adjusting the device. 
> 
> The important thing is to have a way to assure that when someone measured the 
> same field at the same point with the same type of measurement device they 
> would get the same measurement result. That would allow us to compare 
> measurements between different people even if we did not know the absolute 
> field strength value.
> 
> An interesting idea might be to make such a field strength meter have an 
> interface to Wi-Fi so that it could be positioned at a remote point and send 
> its readings to one's local network. There are a lot of ways to do that of 
> course, but planning to have it part the device initially would simplify 
> taking measurements. I am sure that there are others who could contribute 
> ideas that eventually could be used to formulate design objectives for such a 
> device. If there was enough interest I can imagine that a single PCB could 
> created and a lot of such devices built to allow us to add to our collection 
> of measurement devices that help us fabricate better antennas and stations. 
> 
> I wonder if I am the only one who thinks this might be a useful TopBand 
> subject.
> 
> Tod, K0TO
> 
> > 
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I think this thread will quickly get of hand even though it may be
applicable on Top Band (and every other band). I took a quick look at
the QTH.net lists and I didn't see anything resembling
"instrument(ation)" or "measurement". Are there lists or web groups for
amateur instrumentation? I will expand my own search and report back
here if I find anything useful but maybe some list member(s) already
know where to look.

The whole point of having standards is so that we can get the same
results under the same conditions as other people. It should not be any
more difficult to 'calibrate' to an existing, published standard than
'calibrating' to a new 'nonstandard'. There are a lot of different
approaches to accomplishing that and we should look for them.

If there is interest we might start a new list to explore the
possibilities.

73,

Bill  KU8H

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