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Re: Topband: PJ2T on 160 Meters: Europe Before Sunset

To: py2xb <py2xb@integral.com.br>
Subject: Re: Topband: PJ2T on 160 Meters: Europe Before Sunset
From: Andrey Fedorishchev <ra6lbs@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:36:19 +0300
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And it is almost the same here in Europe at 35-55N.
In general we start to hear stations to the East at least 1 hour befor
sunset, but it is hard to get throw.
Same from Balkans to EuRus and AsRus.
>From Cyprus to AsRus.
And from EuRus to AsRus and further to Deep Asia and Pacific.

Much is contributed by the fact that not to many people switches their RX
Antennas to the West, which is still in daylight ...

My guess is that this mistake first and much stronger noise level propagated
in the areas which is in darkness, makes such a QSO difficult.

2010/2/7 py2xb <py2xb@integral.com.br>

> Guys
>
> >From PQ0F (3 degrees below equator) we heard lots of EU 1 hour b4 sunset
> and
> no one heard us as well.
> We heard these stations very well using a vertical polarized  RX flag ant
> aimed North (similar to the RX Flag used by FO0AAA group).
> I have assumed that if we had a vertical TX antenna we would be perhaps
> heard in EU as well.
>
> After sunset signals started to build up on the inverted V antenna (TX ant)
> and get worse on the flag antenna. Then we have started to have qsos.
>
> What may happen is that B4 sunset signals are mostly vertical
>
> Just a guess
>
> Fred PY2XB
>
> 2010/2/7, Milt, N5IA <n5ia@zia-connection.com>:
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Maass" <jmaass@k8nd.com>
> > To: "'Topband Mailing List'" <topband@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:36 PM
> > Subject: Topband: PJ2T on 160 Meters: Europe Before Sunset
> >
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > > Remember, this is from 12-degrees North of the Equator, in the bright
> > > Caribbean sunshine
> > > and with ~85 degF temperatures! I wasn't able to get any stations to
> hear
> > > me this early,
> > > but we could hear them!
> > >
> > > During the contest, twilight at PJ2T came 30 minutes after the contest
> > > began, and full
> > > darkness came almost 1.5 hours into the contest period. We did not work
> > > our first mainland
> > > European station (EA7SG) until 0024Z, almost 2.5 hours into the
> contest.
> > > At the beginning
> > > of the contest, Europeans are feeding on themselves, and not listening
> > > outside. We've
> > > learned to point our receiving antennas at North America for the first
> > few
> > > hours of the
> > > contest, as twilight moves slowly across the USA and Canada.
> > >
> > > 73, Jeff  K8ND
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Jeff,
> >
> > The exact same thing was noted from 24 degrees South and 124 degrees West
> > at
> > Ducie Island, VP6DX, in middle and late February, 2008.  Remember this is
> > the equivalent of middle and late August in the northern Hemisphere.
> >
> > Prior to the ARRL DX CW and the CQ 160 SSB, great signals from NA and EU
> > were heard beginning a full hour before sunset.  In fact, some signals
> from
> > eastern EU heard very well on 160 Meter SSB during that time period were
> > never worked during the contest.
> >
> > I don't know if the signals were copiable any earlier because the
> stations
> > were occupied on other bands up until that time.  But suffice it to say
> > that
> > there is a one to two hour differential between the "hearing" and being
> > able
> > to "work" most  very distant stations at sunset.
> >
> > Milt, N5IA, VP6DX, XZ0A
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
> >
>
>
>
> --
> PY2XB - Fred Carvalho
> _______________________________________________
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>



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