And make it LDMOS with an external, optional 48V supply. LDMOS devices using
"bolt-on" machine screw blocks onto the PC board -- no de-soldering when
replacing. The buyer can then select a mating TT supply or purchase one of
many high-current, 48V supplies on the market for the last 50+ years.
Include an upgrade path for an optional, user-installed internal or external
tuner. Full QSK using shock-mounted vacuum relays. In the design, include a
provision for optional PIN diode switching (equiv. of the Ameritron QSK-5).
The current Icom, Yaesu, SPE and Ameritron SS amps have klunky T/R systems.
The Elecraft amp uses PIN switching at the 500W level. No reason not to
consider it at 1KW. The PIN assembly could be internal or external with 1KV+
DC bias applied to the Rx PIN diodes during a high SWR event. Include an
Ethernet remote control module as standard or as a user-upgrade.
The idea is to offer a cost-competitive base design with easy, reasonably
priced upgrades.
Mike Dishop already has a complete understanding of these issues as evidenced
by his Prometheus "Cadillac" design. It's not like he's got a learning curve;
he's way past that.
Paul, W9AC
P.S. - the Ameritron QSK-5 has had mixed reviews but when connected correctly,
it's really a well-thought design that with some minor tweaks, the design could
lend itself nicely for use with a TT solid-state amp.
-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:24 AM
To: Mike Dishop <n8wff@yahoo.com>; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
<tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] An Update from Ten Tec
IMHO, you guys should come out with a $3000 1KW small form factor solid state
linear amp. You could sell boatloads. Evidently Elecraft's $2300 500W KPA500
sells extremely well and the SPE Expert 1KW and 1.5KW amps have long backorder
wait times. Not much else out there in terms of solid state amps.
73, Barry N1EU
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the update Mike and I wish you every success!
>
> As far as the Eagle production, I believe it would be a tough sell at
> $1699. Every indication is that transceiver architecture is moving
> quickly to direct digital sampling (e.g. IC-7300) and I'd suggest
> pointing your design resources in that direction or risk missing the
> hf xcvr boat entirely. It is very possible Ten-Tec could leverage
> their previous development in dsp firmware (Orion, Omni7, Eagle) to
> accelerate the design cycle, which is apparently what Icom did with the
> IC-7300.
>
> 73, Barry N1EU
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Mike Dishop via TenTec <
> tentec@contesting.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Greetings Friends and Fellow Ten Tec Enthusiasts,
>>
>> Iwanted to update you on what is happening in Sevierville. The
>> SmokeyMountains are literally fogged in with smoke in some places as
>> Tennessee hasmany wild fires burning. I was there two weeks ago and
>> have never experiencedanything like it. Driving down Jellico Mountain
>> on I75 it became literally IFRconditions with near zero visibility from the
>> smoke.
>> Assome of you know Ten Tec has been occupying office condominium
>> space behind thesite of the former factory were now a Wal-Mart
>> Express is sitting. Thissite is not appropriate for our needs.
>> Starting last week, weare moving out of this location into a more
>> industrial friendly space.Unfortunately this location is not zoned
>> for commercial walk in traffic, so thedays of someone showing up at
>> the factory door unfortunately have come toan end. After an entire
>> year of searching for any possible opportunity tomove, this is all we
>> have been able to come up with. Commercial realestate is completely
>> out of control in Sevierville county because of thetourist industry,
>> and unless we have about a half million dollars toinvest in the
>> factory location you can just forget about it. Ten Tec is"too small"
>> to receive any incentive, tax breaks or help from the localso called
>> "Economic Development" office. My opinion is thatthe State and local
>> government of Tennessee is about as economically unfriendlyto a small
>> business or start up business as is possible. For example, inother
>> counties in TN the standard is to create 10 new jobs to get
>> anyincentive. Sevier County arbitrarily requires 25 jobs. By
>> mycalculations, 25 jobs would be around a million dollar pay roll if
>> the jobsaveraged 15 dollars an hour to the employee with a 25% more
>> overhead to theemployer. Any business having that kind of payroll
>> better have about 10million in gross receipts which would put it at
>> DOUBLE the IRS definition of asmall business and QUADRUPLE the IRS
>> definition of a microbusiness, so it isobvious that the economic development
>> offices do not have any mandatewhatsoever to support or help ANY small
>> business reason the scale of
>> anindividual person's finances. The fact that Ten Tec must
>> havecontributed millions of tax dollars to the local economy over the
>> last
>> 50 yearsmeans nothing. In many states, these economic development
>> offices arepartially funded by the local Chamber of Commerce. It is
>> my opinion theseoffices function as intelligence gathering units to
>> forewarn their members ofany possible competitor entering their area.
>> If small business is truly theeconomic growth engine of the United
>> States it is apparent to me why we havegrowth problems if we depend
>> on these organizations to help us as individuals.It seems ironic that
>> the company named TEN TEC for Tennessee Technologies can'tget any assistance
>> at all in Tennessee considering the
>> state's advertising oftheir "Tennessee Technology Initiative". If you are
>> wondering why I wrote all thisabove it is to head off the endless
>> string of expert recommendation that Icontact TVA and the local
>> economic development. I’ve done it and nobody is going to help Ten
>> Tec in the State of Tennessee.
>> Toget back on track, I stated above we are moving the remainder of
>> this month.You all know what that means. Service will be slow this month.
>> Robertdecided not to have you send in radios this month so we
>> wouldn't have to movethem. There is no cause for alarm or
>> speculation. Service willcontinue just as soon as we are moved. I
>> hear and read all kinds of gossip andcomplaints and this and that
>> about our service, and none of it even close toaccurate. We have
>> serviced hundreds of radios this year and have a bunch ofhappy
>> customers. You will see in the reflector some guy complaining
>> orsaying he is worried and then five people saying everything was
>> fine. I'mso sick of it. Really it is so frustrating, especially
>> when some of youcall or write me up in Ohio about your twenty year
>> old radio. I can'thelp you. I'm not in Tennessee. The people there
>> run things and do their jobessentially under Boyd's supervision. I
>> don't want to sound condescending oraloof or unreasonable or
>> unfriendly but please see this from my perspective.There are
>> thousands of you and one of me. I am responsible to run thiscompany
>> and pay the people who work here whose families depend on me. Iam an
>> electrical engineer and my time needs to be spent getting the
>> newproducts developed and out the door, not with a dial string for
>> your old thingthat I neither sold you or received any benefit of
>> selling to you. Canyou directly call the president of Icom? Does
>> Eric answer the telephonewhen you call Elecraft? It is just not
>> possible for me to answer everyemail and every telephone call about
>> service issues. If you call me atDishtronix and leave a message
>> asking me to call you about your Ten Tec I'm notreturning your call.
>> If I answer I'm going to tell you we have put up theprocedure that
>> you email service@tentec.com. Yes, I have a telephone atTen Tec and
>> no, you can’t have it. We are short staffed because we do nothave
>> sales volume at this time to support a large overhead. This
>> way,Robert can go through all of the email and respond at one time in
>> the morning,then spend the rest of the day shipping radios and parts
>> orders without beinginterrupted. He is there three days a week, so
>> you don't get answers onMonday or Friday. Sure, I know some of you
>> don't like it. There is no needto tell me about it. I don't like it
>> either, but until we start having alot more cash flow that is the way
>> it has going to have to be. For those thatcomplain about how long it
>> is taking, please understand this is a milliondollar endeavor and
>> money like that just doesn’t grow on trees, at least forme. Of course
>> any of you wealthy gentlemen looking for a good cause to donatesome
>> money too - I would love to have the cash on hand to turn thingsaround
>> tomorrow. Until then I’ll be working 16 hours a day seven days a weekwith no
>> days off and scrimp and save and spend carefully and build up slowlyjust
>> like every other hard working guy has to do.
>> WhatI am going to try to do next is set up sort of an email hotline
>> for critical caseswith Bob if he will do it. I just thought of this
>> and have to talk to him aboutthis.
>> OK,enough about that. Let’s get on to some better stuff. Many of
>> youknow that under RFC and RKR Ten Tec quit doing their PCB assembly inhouse.
>> Those of you who have known me over the decades at Dishtronix knowmy
>> shop suffered heating issues that made it tough for the machinery to
>> run inthe end of January to February artic blasts. Well, I have a
>> new and verynice double insulated, heated and cooled free span metal
>> building where I'vemoved my PCB assembly operation and this is
>> something I'm very excitedabout. The building has a metal skin
>> totally covering the inside withgood overhead fluorescent lighting
>> and conduit encased electrical outletsevery 12 feet around the
>> perimeter. I have retired the older ContactSystems placement
>> machines in favor of newer MYDATA (Micronics Sweden)placement
>> machines. I installed the first MY9 machine this last June and
>> havebeen using it to build boards for the RX340 commercial orders we
>> have beenfulfilling. Ten Tec did have a MY9 when they were building
>> boards inhouse. The MYDATA machines are the choice for high mix
>> medium volumeproduction, especially when equipped with the Agilis
>> quick change feedersystem. Feeders usually cost more than the
>> machines in this business, and I'vebeen growing my collection all
>> year. I am about a third of the way tohaving the collection of
>> feeders I would like to have. Earlier this month I gotlucky and was
>> able to purchase the bar code software which will allow me toload and
>> unload components from the machine by just scanning with the
>> barcodereader, and it is done offline. It will help with inventory
>> control andcomponent management which is a real nightmare considering
>> Ten Tec has
>> over7000 different line items.
>> TheMY9 machine has a capability to hold up to 96 different components
>> and has asingle mounting head. As I write this, an air ride big rig
>> is getting closerand closer to Ohio hauling a MY19 machine in from
>> San Francisco which can hold anadditional 160 different components
>> (total 256 8 mm tapes) and has 8 mountingheads! Hopefully this
>> machine will be brought online successfully and notbe damaged or in
>> bad shape as I've bought it sight unseen. I've alsomoved the 8 zone,
>> lead free capable, pin chain conveyor equipped ElectrovertBravo 8105
>> oven to the new building last weekend. This gives us thecapability
>> to process double sided surface mount and the ability to
>> reliablyprocess BGA chips. I've also purchased this summer but not
>> yet installedan X ray machine to do 100% inspection of the BGA reflow
>> solderingprocess. With the existing equipment (stencil printers,
>> board
>> washers,etc.) this will give us what I believe is the most well
>> equipped and modern PCBmanufacturing of any amateur radio
>> manufacturer in North America. Ibelieve the other guys outsource
>> their board assembly. It may be thesmart thing to do, but I
>> personally prefer to buy and house my own componentsin house and to
>> have total control over my assembly process. I find itrequires more
>> time to outsource and get constant bids for things like this thanto
>> just own the equipment and do it myself. I think you get a better
>> product atless cost. Of course the best reason in my opinion for
>> doing it all in house isI can do as small of a production run as I
>> want, IF I am willing to spend thetime to set up and do it. Hence the
>> decision for the quick change capability ofthe MYDATA system. So,
>> all in all what this means is the Phoenix isrising. I am rebuilding Ten Tec
>> and preparing to do some serious manufacturing,which brings me to my next
>> point.
>> Mostof you know we have been bogged down and overwhelmed with the
>> commercial sideof our business this last year since I officially
>> assumed the helm in January.With trying to replenish the hard to get
>> / long lead time / lasttime buy / obsolete parts, rebuild the PCB
>> assembly operations, moving,and so on we just haven't had the
>> horsepower to build any amateurtransceivers. Well, the good news is
>> we have caught up on our commercialcontracts. Be glad we did this.
>> You know all the stuff I wrote aboutabove? The commercial contracts
>> paid for that. Without this TEN TEC wouldnot exist right now. We are
>> at a very important cross roads right now. What do we do next?
>>
>> Someof you know we are developing new products. Those are still off
>> on thehorizon. What I need to know is how many of you would purchase
>> Eagles ifthey were available? I'd like to do a run of 100 of them
>> next. It is agreat radio. I like mine every bit as well as my Orion
>> II. The DSPfunction is superb.
>> Wehave to talk a little bit about price. When the Eagle was launched
>> it wasa $2100 radio with no accessories. You all know the story of
>> the blow outsales and the liquidation as the previous owners sold
>> everything that wasn'tnailed down on their way out. Some of you got
>> fully loaded radios
>> for$1299 or whatever. You know they didn't even cover their assembly
>> cost onthat, right? Some of you got real bargains. Of course only
>> the last 35radios or something were sold at that price but you get the point.
>> Youwill never see a price like that again. If I have to sell and
>> Eagle atthat I will close and lock the doors and be done with it. A
>> strip modelneeds to sell at 1699 at least. The more you are willing
>> to pay for aradio the faster the new radios can come out. We want to
>> build radios andsell them so we can keep the production team in place
>> so we can meet the demandwhen the new radios come out. Everything we
>> do tomorrow depends on how much yousupport us today.
>> I'mcertain some of you have heard that I and two partners acquired
>> Alpha and thatI've been officially at the Helm since August. It is a
>> separate companyfrom Dishtronix / TEN TEC. Of course I will be
>> building the circuitboards for those products as well. I'm after
>> something business peoplecall economy of scale, essentially having
>> enough product flow through the doorsto totally occupy the machines
>> and infrastructure. I'll be making apost on that reflector as well to
>> update those customers also.
>> Bythe way, we do have RX340s available to build on short notice now.
>> Letme close by wishing you all a Happy and Safe Thanksgiving holiday,
>> one of myfavorites and of course the reason I see my dentist in
>> November for my prefeast tune up. The Sevierville team and I
>> appreciate your support for TenTec, where we believe we are once
>> again Making America Great - One Radioat a Time.
>> VY73 DE MIKE N8WFF
>>
>>
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