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Re: [TenTec] Orion II and new 2K-FL amp

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion II and new 2K-FL amp
From: "Michael Tortorella" <w2iy@verizon.net>
Reply-to: w2iy@verizon.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 16:41:12 -0400
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John, last time this happened to me it was the trimpot on the regulator
board had gotten dirty.  Cleaned and exercised and that solved the problem.
Hope this helps.
73
Mike w2IY

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From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K3GHH
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion II and new 2K-FL amp

Progress report... or lack thereof...

I was ready to take the next step with this amplifier when my primary 
station power supply, an Astron VS-35M, failed. Zero output. I had 
replaced the bridge rectifiers in 2012 and they're OK --- 21 VDC out of 
them. Problem is somewhere farther downstream. I posted a request for 
help on the eHamnet "repair" forum and have one reply so far.

QRT for a while unless I drag out a little 12v supply and fire up the Scout.

--John K3GHH


On 10/18/2016 09:02 AM, Carl Moreschi wrote:
> The amp key line comes on about 15 msec before RF is produced.  This 
> allows the amp relay to transfer.  QSK should be fine this way..
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
>
> On 10/18/2016 9:00 AM, d.e.warnick@comcast.net wrote:
>> So how is QSK implemented with this setup, or would one need to 
>> purchase an amp with a loop like my Herc II to run full QSK??
>> Dave
>> WA3F
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "K3GHH"<k3ghh@arrl.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"<tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:43:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion II and new 2K-FL amp
>>
>> Thank you, Rick. That's what I suspected.
>>
>> And yes, Barry, the Keying Loop 1 and 2 are already off. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On 10/18/2016 08:02 AM, rick@dj0ip.de wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Your O2 has two means of keying linear amplifiers:
>>>
>>> 1. Single Cable using the AMP KEY
>>> 2. Dual Cables using TX EN and TX OUT. (Keying Loop)
>>>
>>> You amplifier does not support a keying loop.
>>> You must use the AMP KEY.
>>>
>>> I haven't had an Orion for many years now but I seem to recall you 
>>> have to
>>> select or enable whichever keying method you want in the software menu.
>>>
>>> There is no problem with voltage incompatibility. It is plug and 
>>> play once
>>> you enable the correct keying method in the menu.
>>>
>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K3GHH
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:56 PM
>>> To: tentec@contesting.com
>>> Subject: [TenTec] Orion II and new 2K-FL amp
>>>
>>> Baby steps here, coping with my first-ever amplifier... First question:
>>> A phono cable must run from the amplifier's "Relay 1" jack to ...
>>> something on the O2. Is it TX OUT 1, TX EN 1, or AMP KEY 1?
>>>
>>> The SPE Expert 2K-FL manual states: "RELAY This essential link 
>>> allows the
>>> amplifier to be put in the transmit state. To do that it is 
>>> necessary that
>>> the inner pin of the phono connector is connected to signal ground. 
>>> This is
>>> normally done at the transceiver with either a 'close-on-ground' 
>>> relay, or
>>> with a switching transistor. It is important that the voltages at that
>>> terminal do not exceed 12 Vdc. On the transceiver this link is often 
>>> called
>>> SEND or TX GND. Refer to your transceiver manual for more details."
>>>
>>> This seems to come first, before dealing with ALC and CAT.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> -- John K3GHH
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