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Subject: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
From: "rick@dj0ip.de" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 07:33:10 +0100
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(changed the subject:  was Service, overhead   and the future A/K...)

Barry,

I did a lot of reading in the past day and I believe you are right.
The KX3 is exactly the radio I described. PERFECT.

Unfortunately it's beyond my budget.

The basic KX3 costs $1500 here in DL.
Add in a tuner and roofing filter and paddle and it's over $2K for a 10w
radio that I might use 5 or 6 times per year on a mountain top.  The ROI
just isn't worth it.

For home use, say as my 2nd radio, I would need an amplifier.

Bottom Line:  It's a champagne dream on a Budweiser budget.
For that money -(at this point in my life)-  I would get more bangs for my
buck out of playing with something else, such as a 7300 or an Annan, etc. 

I need a Plan B for SOTA.  Maybe it's just "bite the bullet and carry my
Scout up the mountain."

I don't mind spending $500 or so but I would sure like to know how the radio
is going to perform BEFORE I buy it.

My primary bands for portable have always been 40 and 20.  15 will be dying
soon.  Do I really need 17m for SOTA?

QUESTION FOR YOU ACTIVE SOTA Ops:  What bands do you mainly operate when you
are on a mountain top?

I've only been on one SOTA outing together with a buddy and we operated
40/20/17/15 making a lot of QSOs on each band.  Perhaps not quite as many on
17.

I think I will take a second look at the LNR offering.
It is indeed an SDR with DDC - so not an NE-605 type of radio.
Unfortunately they don't show much detail; just a block diagram.
There is a box called SDR-RF BPF.
This is a make or break component.
Some SDR radios have ham band BPFs (good), others have an LPF, with 0-12MHz
(useless).


73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)



-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 5:48 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Service, overhead, and the future. A/K/A/ I've got my
2 cents!

Rick, I'm not sure if you would be satisfied by the KX1 or the MTR radios.

Unfortunately I don't know the answer to something better but not too
expensive.

I suggest you try to borrow an MTR-5B.  That's the only lesser expensive
radio that will do 40-15M inclusively.  And you'd have to search around to
find one for sale currently although LNR should be bringing it out soon.

Or, just stick with the FT-817.  I like the radio, although it really needs
an external speech processor to work well on SSB.

73, Barry N1EU

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:

> Hi Barry,
>
> I'd love to have a KX3 but it is much too heavy.
> It's weight would place too big of a dent in my wallet!
>
> For SOTA I really only need 40/20/17/15m.
> 10 is dying and by the time it comes back, I doubt that I will still 
> be running up any mountains.
>
> My next scheduled SOTA operation is 1-April.  "Fool on a hill" - that's
me!
> I don't know yet if I'll try carrying my Scout up the mountain or not.
> I can borrow an FT-817.
>
> How good is the KX1?
> We have some heavy challenges on our receivers here in EU.
> A weak DR3 destroys 40m, especially at night, and a weak DR2 makes 
> working 20m difficult - especially at night.  You guys in the states 
> can't appreciate that.  You have to see/hear it to believe it.
>
> I once built a 20m QRP rig based on a design by Rick Littlefield.
> Had some kind of IC mixer.
> It was marginal.
> I ran a QRP CW contest using a home-brew magnetic loop antenna. 
> Sitting in my living room with radio, mag loop, and battery, I worked
dozens of QSOs.
> Thought it was great.  Then I put it on a big antenna and all hell 
> broke loose at night.
>
> So I bought the MFJ 20m QRP CW rig.
> It was no better than the one I built.
> I sold both.
>
> I want something better than that - but not too expensive.
> But I don't know the QRP radios at all, except for the Argonauts.
>
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry 
> N1EU
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:25 AM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Service, overhead, and the future. A/K/A/ I've 
> got my
> 2 cents!
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:40 PM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
>
> >
> > My Scout is a bit too heavy and over-powered, but the FT-817 just 
> > isn't enough radio for me.
> > I'm looking for something in between.  I'd like to see a 10w or 20w 
> > radio with a good RX.
> > I want it to have both SSB and CW.
>
>
>
> It's called a KX-3
>
> I've got one, but I usually carry a much lighter KX-1 or MTR-5B when I 
> actually hike up a mountain.  (200 SOTA activations here)
>
> 73, Barry N1EU
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