Do you mean Tuner not analyzer?
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:16 PM, denton sprague <denton@oregontrail.net>
wrote:
> no
> > On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Tony <va3dwi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I hope you are joking about that!!
> > 73, Tony VE3DWI.
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
> > Original Message
> > From: denton sprague
> > Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 12:13
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Reply To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Pimp My Eagle
> >
> > A built in antenna analyzer also, please...
> >
> >> On Jan 7, 2016, at 8:52 AM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@DJ0IP.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD FOCUSED ON THE “EAGLE.”
> >>
> >> (feel free to start a new thread on O7+ or O3)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I agree with Brian . . . let’s talk about radios again.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It seems the current tentative plan is:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) OM7(+) gets a new front plate and face plate, but not a lot of
> >> changes
> >>
> >> 2) (super) Eagle gets new DSP and _ _ _ _ _ _
> >>
> >> 3) Argonaut 6 will more or less resume production unchanged
> >>
> >> 4) An O3 is in the making, details unknown
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I want to make a suggestions about the future Eagle.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> IMO TEN-TEC made a mistake with the Eagle.
> >>
> >> They tried to address three market segments with one product.
> >>
> >> 1) A simple easy to use computer for old folks (including me) who
> >> usually prefer not to even turn the computer on, just because we want
> to get
> >> on the radio – but do want high performance.
> >>
> >> 2) The mobile hf market
> >>
> >> 3) The entry level 100w hf transceiver market
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Result: Jack of all trades, master of none.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If you read the wish list in the Eagle group, since the beginning there
> were
> >> clearly representatives of all three groups expressing wishes for
> >> improvements. What might benefit one group is often counter-productive
> for
> >> the other.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If Ten-Tec is to succeed, they need to identify the market segment for
> each
> >> product and optimize for it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Of the three segments I have listed above, I believe Ten-Tec’s best
> chance
> >> is in no. 1.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don’t think any US based OEM can go big in the entry level segment
> because
> >> it is primarily driven by price.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I also believe a mobile rig today MUST have a removable front panel.
> Sure
> >> some people don’t mind having the radio occupy the front passenger
> space,
> >> but I prefer to keep it for my XYL. (In fact I have no choice ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My wish is for the Super Eagle to focus on number 1 above.
> >>
> >> As such, I can propose some changes:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) And most important: a bigger box. In all my 15+ years
> >> participating in Ten-Tec groups, I can’t recall a single instance of
> anyone
> >> asking for a smaller box. Yet ALL OEMs seem to think that’s what we
> want.
> >> Lots of important things suffer when you reduce the size of the box. You
> >> have less knobs, more menu adjustable items, smaller loud speaker,
> smaller
> >> S-Meter, coils are smaller (lower Q), heat sinks are smaller and fans
> are
> >> smaller so you have more noise. Less room for working on the radio, less
> >> room for back panel jacks (so we must use plugs with 75 pins!). DON’T
> NEED
> >> ANY OF THIS. I NEED THE FOLLOWING…
> >>
> >> 2) Larger knobs. Concentric knobs are only ok if they are large
> >> enough.
> >>
> >> 3) Larger S-meter. Prefer a true meter, but if not, then at least a
> >> color-coded LED meter.
> >>
> >> 4) ¼ inch connections for things like key and headphones;
> >>
> >> 5) Separate jacks for paddle and straight key
> >>
> >> 6) PTT and AMP KEY should be RCA Phono (again)
> >>
> >> 7) Dedicated RIT control (not the multi-knob)
> >>
> >> 8) Simplified VFO mode (i.e. getting in and out of split)
> >>
> >> 9) Buttons should have a max of dual function. Push once to enable
> >> main function, push twice (quickly) to enable secondary function. I
> don’t
> >> want to push multiple buttons that may be on opposite sides of the front
> >> panel.
> >>
> >> 10) Exception to menu handling is allowed but only for things that
> really
> >> are “set once and forget”, such as defining filter slots and screen
> color.
> >>
> >> 11) Mic gain and CW Speed should be a dedicated knob. I’m OK with it
> just
> >> being one knob, but others might prefer concentric.
> >>
> >> 12) Band stacking register. Don’t understand why it was left out.
> >>
> >> 13) [finally] address the keying timing issues when using a non-Ten-Tec
> >> linear amplifier. The Pre-dit and Post-dit (hang) time must be
> adjustable.
> >> Pre-dit can be inside the “set once and forget” menu, but Post-dit is a
> >> value I change often. Either make it easy to adjust, OR make it
> dynamically
> >> linked to the keyer speed with user adjustable ratio. There are keyers
> on
> >> the market that have this feature.
> >>
> >> 14) IF output to the real panel. Can be an option, but just plug one
> >> cable.
> >>
> >> 15) Pre-selector output to the real panel. Can be an option, but just 2
> >> cables.
> >>
> >> 16) AUX-RX ANT connection. It’s to the point now that often the low
> bands
> >> are only usable with some kind of special small receiving antenna, due
> to
> >> all the noise from consumer products.
> >>
> >> 17) NO BAND SCOPE. (Use the IF connector on the rear panel). Or use an
> >> ANT OUT, an external SDR, and Carl’s NP4Y software.
> >>
> >> 18) Power Out indicator (not just an ALC LED)
> >>
> >> 19) What else?
> >>
> >> 20) Bright Red-Orange Dot! ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I’m sure I have forgotten a few points, but mainly KEEP IT SIMPLE so
> that
> >> old eyes and old fingers can use it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I intentionally began this thread here rather than in the Eagle group
> >> because maybe if we get these changes, some of the people here (and not
> >> currently in the Eagle group) will join us.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> PIMP MY EAGLE!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> >>
> >> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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