Good on all, Barry- can you tell I am NOT a contester? ;-) ......so maybe I
have not understood the discussion.
Is the discussion only about receive recovery in QSK? What do you all
fundamentally disagree on?
Why was "contest ready" brought up if it is a non-sequitur due to ergonomics?
Again, NO dis-respect meant or implied..... I want to learn about this SDR
stuff, and this group seems one of the better (Read: Friendliest, most
respectful, knowledgeable) places to do so without laying out our hard-earned
$$ to find out "the hard way".
Thanks to all joining the discussion!!
73-
Greg, KC8HXO
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On Mon, 12/7/15, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [TenTec] SDR Vs. TT, et al
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Monday, December 7, 2015, 9:48 AM
Sorry Greg, the Flex and
ANAN are contest ready and fully capable of a top
10 finish. Why so few top contesters use them
is all about ergonomics, not
performance.
And hey, NOBODY goes over
48wpm in a contest. The top stations are mostly
running mid-30's wpm with a few of the dx
stations running their pileups in
the
neighborhood of 40wpm.
I
don't actually have a clue what you mean in terms of a
recording
revealing "if the performance
is up to our standards."
FWIW, I NEVER use QSK in a contest.
73, Barry N1EU
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Greg S via
TenTec <tentec@contesting.com>
wrote:
>
“In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice,
they are not.”
> ~anon.
>
> I am a simple guy,
and I think that where the "rubber meets the road"
is
> what matters. I postulate the
following: Make a QUALITY digital recording
> at the station with a GOOD Flex 6700 set
up, of an ACTUAL CW QSO with
> strong
signals, at speeds of xxWPM using QSK. Make
sure the side tone
> volume and the
received volume are about equal. Use a recording device
> SEPARATE from the computer used for the
Flex--- and have the AGC of that
>
recording device is turned off. I think many options exist
to do this. Post
> the results of this
file, and a link to that file. WE CAN USE OUR EARS to
> determine if the performance is up to our
standards. THAT is what REALLY
>
matters...... in MY opinion. Do the same from an Eagle, or
an Orion, or a
> K3, et
al.......Let's compare REALITY. - (See
leading quote above).
>
> A couple more tidbits as food for
thought:
>
> How many
top 10 contest finishers are currently using a Flex OR ANAN
to
> place in the top 10 in the contest?
(Someone said the 6700 is "Contest
>
Ready" ..... so is my Corsair II, but I doubt anyone is
finishing in the
> top 10 using one
;-)).
> Did I not just recently read a
review in QST where they found 48WPM was
> the limit of the 100D without character
shortening?? (I know this can
> change
rapidly).
>
> Not
trying to disparage anyone, nor any rig, nor do I have the
ability, or
> capability, to do any of
the above. I do not know the answers the
> questions I posed, but they are the
thoughts that ran thru my simple mind
>
on a Monday morning......AND, I am guessing there are those
on the list
> that CAN answer them, AND
do the above proposed experiments. I also
> postulate many on the list would like to
"HEAR" the results, not just SEE
> them.
>
> If I am off-base tell me to go jump in the
lake..... I have one close by,
> and it
isn't even frozen over yet!!!
>
> 73-
> Greg Schippers,
KC8HXO
>
>
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> On Mon, 12/7/15, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Subject:
Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 156, Issue 4
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec
Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Date: Monday, December 7, 2015, 8:58
AM
>
> I'm not
sure
> that's the right question to
ask because recovery
> doesn't
> necessarily happen in real
> time. The Flex T/R cw recovery is
really a mind
> blower for an SDR.
But does it necessarily
> mean you can
do actual QSK and
> hear someone
> else trying to break you in real time?
I think there's
> still
> receive latency so that even with the
> receiver recovering, it still lags
> real time
> signals
by 150msec (or whatever).
>
> Barry N1EU
>
> --------------------SNIPPED FOR
BREVITY------------------------------
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