;-)
Nah, looking at the panadapter doesn't improve the score necessarily. I
just did it for fun - I'm a cw guy and ssb contests are throw-aways for me
and I'm just looking to do some fun experiments. I made the screen/audio
capture video because it does a great job of conveying what it would be
like to be using that SDR rig. I think the audio is pretty amazing -
that's direct digitally sampled stereo diversity - the SDR rx audio is just
SO clean.
73, Barry N1EU
On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
> Barry,
>
> It is really quite fascinating, what all you can see and do with it, but as
> you wrote, you "can watch the panadapter" after clicking on stations in the
> bandmap. The bandmap found you the stations, not the pan-adapter.
>
> Do you actually do that (normally), or did you just do it because the ANAN
> was new and interesting to play with?
>
> Perhaps I'm missing something, but I can't see how looking at the
> pan-adapter is doing anything to improve your score. So indeed, OUTSIDE of
> the contest it would be a lot of fun, but in the contest, we're busy
> clicking in the band map and working DX.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry
> N1EU
> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 1:04 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] List of Pan-Adapter Features
>
> For your viewing enjoyment, somewhat related to contesting with a
> panadapter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb8OfiL3crE - please choose
> 720p HD (gear icon at lower right of taskbar) and full screen (bottom right
> icon), and listen with stereo headphones.
>
> I'm clicking on spots on my N1MM bandmap and you can watch the panadapter
> as
> I skip around and work stations. Receiver is at 2.1KHz dsp bandwidth,
> which
> I find ideal for contesting (easy on the ears).
>
> This is the only contest I used the SDR radio (ANAN-100D) in. I quickly
> went back to the Orion afterward and got rid of the SDR, due to
> latency/bugs. But its receiver was amazing.
>
> 73, Barry N1EU
>
> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@dj0ip.de>
> wrote:
>
> > TNX Barry
> >
> > Dunno why I forgot the 2nd RX aspect of it, as I plan to use that
> > feature myself.
> > Just an oversight I guess. I'll add it.
> >
> >
> > I'm sure you are familiar with the Band-Map but I will describe it in
> > detail here for those who are not:
> >
> > I run Win-Test contest logging software but I assume N1MM is similar.
> > The Band-Map is fully integrated into the Win-Test software, so it is
> > for free.
> >
> > The Band-Map within the logging software is fed by telnet feed(s) and
> > maps onto whatever band I am on.
> > It maps vertically, so displayed call signs do not overlap each other
> > like they can on a crowded band when mapping onto a band scope. As I
> > turn the VFO knob on the radio, the analog scale of the Band-Map advances
> with it.
> >
> > More important is the type of information displayed:
> > >> stations already worked are displayed in italics and grayed out, so
> > >> I
> > know not to call them again.
> > >> Single multipliers are represented in a different color than double
> > multipliers
> >
> > When I switch to a new band, after the Band-Map populates, I first
> > click rapidly across the band trying to work all the double
> > multipliers. Then I go back and work all the single multipliers I
> > can. After that I scan the band using the VFO, carefully listening,
> > working all that I can. Then I change bands.
> >
> > To work a station, I simply double-click on the call sign.
> > The selected call sign is automatically entered into my log, but it is
> > not logged unless I hit <ENTER>.
> > You also must confirm the contest exchange yourself because sometimes
> > the software will enter the wrong zone, etc.
> >
> > The Band-Map provides is a wealth of information in an easy to use
> window.
> > You can adjust bandspread the display with the mouse wheel, so that
> > there is never any problem reading each and every call sign.
> >
> > When you change bands, you do not instantly see this information. It
> > takes a couple of minutes for the Band-Map to populate. During that
> > wait time, I just work whomever I can.
> >
> > SINCE USING THE BAND-MAP, I HAVE DOUBLED THE SCORE I WAS CONSISTANTLY
> > MAKING BEFORE!
> >
> > People who don't like using this method, don't have to, and they don't
> > have to compete with others who use it. There are two different classes:
> > Assisted & Unassisted.
> >
> > If you are a member of a club and your club is actively competing in
> > the club championship, then you need to use this in order to
> > contribute as many points as possible to your club's total score.
> >
> > Hopefully now some of the guys will understand why I said seeing a
> > simple blip or a null (free spot) on a screen is not really much help.
> > I am comparing that to the kind of information the Band-Map presents.
> > If you use the Band-Map, there really isn't much advantage to also
> > having a band scope.
> > It doesn't hurt to have the band scope, as long as you don't waste too
> > much time watching it.
> >
> > For me, the band scope (Pan-Adapter) will be a fun thing to play with
> > 'outside' of the contest.
> >
> > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry
> > N1EU
> > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:13 PM
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] List of Pan-Adapter Features
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@dj0ip.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Is this pretty much it, or are there more things one might do with a
> > > Pan-Adapter?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Many of the panadapter programs (e.g. NaP3) will provide its own rx
> > audio output through the soundcard so essentially you have another
> > receiver with fully configurable dsp bandwidth (as wide/narrow as you
> > like) , sync AM etc.
> > The rx audio derived is very high quality/fidelity (might be a nice
> > experiment with an Omni 6).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > When it maps the Telnet spots,
> > > does it interface with the contest logging software and show you the
> > > multipliers, show you which ones you have worked already, and
> > > automatically enter the call sign into the log when you double click
> > > it? (In other words, can it do all the things the bandmap can do?)
> > > If so, which contest logging software does it run with? N1MM?
> > > Win-Test? Other?
> > >
> >
> > The short answer is no. The ONLY software that will map Telnet spots
> > on the bandscope is NaP3 and you must use its built-in Telnet client
> > to connect independently to a remote node or a local node (which could
> > be skimmer or an aggregator that merges skimmer with a remote node).
> > Its display will be contest-ignorant.
> >
> >
> > 73, Barry N1EU
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