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Re: [TenTec] OT Computer Assistance

To: "n4py3@earthlink.net" <n4py3@earthlink.net>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT Computer Assistance
From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:01:30 -0700
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Yeah, there's no compatibility mode for 16 bit stuff. Not even in Mac or Linux 
:)

Kim N5OP

"People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as the 
music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith

> On Nov 22, 2014, at 17:55, Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> The issue is older 16 bit programs and drivers for 32 bit systems.  They 
> won't run on 64 bit systems.
> 
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
> 
>> On 11/22/2014 7:38 PM, Kim Elmore wrote:
>> You can buy and use USB-parallel interfaces. Whether they will work and 
>> whether you can find drivers that Win7 is happy with is are other things 
>> that might get I the way. It's worth a try, but new printers are pretty 
>> cheap. The ink is how the companies make their money.
>> 
>> Will respectfully disagree about Win7 64. I have NEVER had any trouble 
>> whatsoever running 32 bit applications on Win7 64. Any 32 bit application 
>> will suffer the 2 GB addressable memory limit but Win7 64 is intended to 
>> accommodate them. Win7 64 default puts them into their own directory, but 
>> that's not necessary. I've mixed them up and it doesn't matter.
>> 
>> Kim N5OP
>> 
>> "People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as the 
>> music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2014, at 8:09, "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP"<Rick@DJ0IP.de>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Phil,
>>> 
>>> You have dug yourself into a pretty deep hole.
>>> 
>>> The printers MUST go. PERIOD.
>>> It's painful perhaps but the time has come.
>>> 
>>> My pain in migrating to Win7 was, I had to finally give up my Palm Pilot.
>>> :-(
>>> You get over it.
>>> 
>>> Carl's tip on "32-bit" Windows 7 is important.
>>> You'll stand a much better chance of getting old software and old interfaces
>>> through (thru adapters) to work than with 64-bit.
>>> 
>>> AVOID Windows 8.
>>> AVOID Windows 8.
>>> 
>>> For logging software, I would migrate to a new logging program immediately.
>>> Surely your existing software has a means of exporting the files in one
>>> format or another.
>>> Initially, look for a freeware logging software that can import whatever
>>> format your old program can export into.
>>> You can always migrate the software again to a more comfortable program at
>>> some later date.
>>> 
>>> Personally, I prefer to purchase off-lease professional (business) computers
>>> rather than the new stuff in Best Try.
>>> It is not only cheaper, it also usually lasts longer than new consumer
>>> products.
>>> HP, Dell, and Lenovo all have business lines of computers, in addition to
>>> the consumer products they sell in the retail outlets.  They are built with
>>> "Tier-1" components and their build quality is usually better than that of
>>> their consumer products "Tier-2" components.
>>> 
>>> Most larger cities have at least one store dealing in off-lease computers.
>>> They also have 2nd hand monitors and even printers (with USB) at a
>>> reasonable price.
>>> This helps save a lot and you always get a short guarantee, so if you do
>>> encounter an initial problem, you can exchange the device.  This is less
>>> risk than buying something used on ePray.
>>> 
>>> I would consider keeping my newest XP computer for one more year, just in
>>> case I discovered I had forgotten something.
>>> That way there is still hope for recovery.  Just store it in the closet and
>>> hope you don't need it.
>>> 
>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Phil
>>> Sussman
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:16 PM
>>> To: rtty@contesting.com
>>> Cc: tentec@contesting.com
>>> Subject: [TenTec] OT Computer Assistance
>>> 
>>> I have been researching the replacement of the three XP machines here in the
>>> shack and the results have been discouraging. None of my programs: word
>>> processing, spreadsheet, logging, rig interface, and scanner programming is
>>> compatible with
>>> WIN-7 let alone WIN-8.1.
>>> 
>>> In addition, my interfaces for the printer(s) [non-serial, but parallel]
>>> aren't USB compatible either! I currently have five serial interfaces, but
>>> my two USB ports have yet to operate with serial adapters. I believe this is
>>> because my USB ports are USB-1 type (just plain old)
>>> 
>>> Obviously, I do not have an unlimited budget to replace three computers, two
>>> printers, all the software and still be unable to interface with my rigs.
>>> I've got a JRC JST-145 (interfaced with LOGic) and an ICOM IC-756 pro-II.
>>> 
>>> Any helpful suggestions welcome.
>>> 
>>> Thanks ES 73
>>> 
>>> de Phil - N8PS
>>> 
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