We have the knob device already. See Woodbox radio's Tmate 2. It has 3
knobs and 9 buttons, is a USB device and my software lets you program
the knobs and buttons to do anything you want.
Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com
On 11/3/2014 10:59 AM, Tom Mandera wrote:
We already have CI-V and a few other variations of the same thing.
A single standard would be fantastic to opening up a new market..
we have SDR. They require a computer. Computers no longer have knobs
like some of us prefer, but we have a GUI with a picture of a knob or a
slider and a mouse to turn it.
Step 1) we need a USB "VFO" (hmm.. perhaps we embrace "gaming controllers"
with analog inputs - or a steering wheel controller from a driving game -
there's your big VFO knob!) and then some additional rotary encoder inputs
for volume, RF-gain, and so forth.
Plug multiple "USB knobs" together (gang them) to make a console.
Lock each knob to an "input" to the SDR software so you can still use the
mouse, or you can spin the knob.
Set it up with the computer, then hide the computer behind the desk and
pretend it isn't there.
..because once the inputs are solved, the next evolution is something that
resembles a metal enclosure with a bunch of the "USB knobs" ganged
together, with a Raspberry Pi tucked in the back.
Now you can pretend there's no computer in the mix.
If we had a single standard for rig control (CI-V and whatever the other
options are) you have a single product that could be used on multiple
radios.
Need a remote VFO for your Orion? Here you go.
Like that K3 but hate the small box and lack of knobs? Here you go.
Want to try a Flex but can't stand the absence of knobs entirely? Here
you go.
What's the difference between a TenTec Pegasus and a TenTec Jupiter?
You could try all of this with a micro-controller, but micro-computers are
cheap enough and you can do it as an incremental solution to prove it out
before you commit.
-Tom
KE7VUX
TT Scout
TT Paragon II 586
TT Omni IV+
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 18:02:17 -0500
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Exactly Carl.
That was Rick's initial point and it still valid. Perhaps the take
away point from this thread is what he said first, that radios of
the future may be more computer based, but we may see more
and varied forms of knobs and controls added in various formats
and layouts. Based on his vision, I can imagine buying an SDR
from Company A, and a separate interface of some kind from
Company B or maybe from Company C to interface with the
computer. Perhaps a new business model is in store... SDRs
from one mfr and various interfaces from multiple mfrs.
We see this in computer recording products. One purchases a
computer, and then selects two things: A) a preferred software
package, and B) a preferred hardware recording surface (console)
as a physical interface with knobs and buttons. Perhaps such
a business model would suit future radio sales. Under this scenario,
there would be multiple Woodbox T products... one with one knob
and X buttons, another with two knobs and Y buttons, and even
a third with a big knob, three or four smaller knobs, and XX buttons,
and it would compete with similar products from other companies.
This is what I took from Rick's first point and I think it is
entirely consistent with your statements, below. And I think
it would work.
Picture buying a remote rig like a K3 from Elecraft, but buying an
operating head from TT, or a black box Eagle from TT, and a
remote head designed and manufactured by YOU and JERRY H
with your programming, and his build design. I think TT was
thinking this very sort of thing when it came out with the Arduino
based kits. It makes a black box starter unit, and hams invent
all the rest.
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