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Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
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Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 22:09:38 +0100
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Wade,
Comparing the Flex 1500 to 6xxx is like comparing an Argonaut 505 to an
Orion.
About the only thing they have in commen are the four letters f, l, e, and
x.

I believe you'll find the latency problem to be a slow computer.
The 1500 will never be as fast as the old analog rig, but it is fast enough
for most of us, when working properly.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Wade Staggs
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 7:34 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future

*A very good Friend of mine has a Flex Radio. He Brags about it Constantly.
So why is it that every time we hear him On the Air, He is talking on an
Omni D which he has had on loan from me for a bit over a year now? He even
has the 100 Watt Amplifier and All the Bells and Whistles........ We have
tried 3 different Computers from Slow to Quad Core with 4 Gig of RAM. There
is still about a 1.5 second delay between Keying the Microphone and Actually
Transmitting anything. The Receive has about the same Lag Time.
Yay and Whoopie for the SDR Radios, if you want to be constantly doubling
with other stations. I like my radio's to work in Real Time. *

*                        Just my opinion and 73 from Wade/KJ4WS*

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Lee <ny6p01@gmail.com> wrote:

> Think you have your finger on it. What would facilitate this even 
> more, would be if those who designed s_d_r, would adhere to a few 
> common standards which would make hardware controllers of the type you 
> indicate portable and interchangeable.
> On Oct 31, 2014 4:26 PM, "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
>
> > IMO, the time has come to stop worrying about which "radio".
> > It's time to abandon the concept of a radio as being the single 
> > stand
> alone
> > device that gets us on the air.
> >
> > SDR radios such as FLEX and ANAN  ARE THE FUTURE.
> > BUT NOT as stand-alone devices.
> > Most of us will have and use an additional "Human Interface Box".
> >
> > What most of us don't like about the current SDR radios is their 
> > human interface.
> > ..We want knobs.
> > ..Some of us want big knobs.
> > ..Some of us want more knobs
> > ..Some of us want fewer knobs
> >
> > The Eagle is a fantastic radio but we can't seem to agree on the 
> > knob arrangement for the perfect Eagle.
> > WHY MUST WE AGREE ON JUST ONE SOLUTION?
> > What if we could have a dozen different solutions to the knob
> arrangement,
> > but they all control a black box called "Son of Eagle"?
> >
> > CONSIDER THIS:
> >
> > In the future there will be multiple companies offering various 
> > Human Interfaces.
> > Our choice of human interface will be just as important as our 
> > choice of SDR radio that goes behind it.
> >
> > Before I continue, let me explain what I have in mind.
> > I'm thinking of things like the Wood Box interface such as their TMate2.
> > See:  http://www.woodboxradio.com/tmate2.html
> >
> > My first impression of the TMate2:  "Nice but too expensive."
> > But is it really too expensive?
> > It is exactly the knobs that this device has which I like so much in 
> > my radios.
> >
> > Considering its price, the performance of the FLEX 6300 is phenomenal.
> > But who wants a radio with no knobs?  I certainly don't.
> >
> > In the future, that performance level will be available for $1K or 
> > even less.
> > Couple that with a $300 human interface and we'll have a lovely 
> > radio at
> a
> > reasonable price.
> >
> > Each of us can choose which human interface we want, with as many 
> > knobs
> as
> > we want, and the radio behind it is a black box engine.  We can swap 
> > the SDR black box engine as often as we want, but keeping our own 
> > favorite human interface.  Each new radio will have the same look 
> > and feel as the old
> one.
> > No new steep learning curve.
> >
> > Upgrading to newer technology will be cheaper because we don't 
> > replace everything.
> > We just purchase a new engine.
> >
> > I believe this will be the ham radio of the future.
> >
> > This approach will enable each of us to create a radio environment 
> > that suits our own personal tastes.
> >
> > Even though I was one of the ones yelling loudest that real radios 
> > have knobs, I'm ready to jump ship as soon as they build solutions like
this.
> >
> > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> >
> >
> >
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