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Re: [TenTec] Zepp?

To: 'Paul Gates' <paulgates80@yahoo.com>, 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment' <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Zepp?
From: Joel Hallas <jrhallas@optonline.net>
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:59:46 -0400
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That's what I mean by "at the bottom," at the bottom of the feed line rather
than at the top where the antenna is. The SWR is not improved, but the loss
is reduced.

Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
Westport, CT


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Paul Gates
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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Zepp?

I do not know what you mean by putting Balun at bottom? I place my balun
between the openline and the tuner. 130 ft attenna then the SWR is 1:1 on
all bands.

Paul Gates KW4BD


On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:46 AM, Joel Hallas
<jrhallas@optonline.net> wrote:
 

>
>
>Gents,
>
>This is an interesting antenna idea, and I did a quick EZNEC/TLW look 
>on the
>5 major HF bands. Unfortunately, the SWR ranges from a low of 5:1 (80 
>and 10
>meters) to 11:1 on 40. 100 feet of RG-213 will have a loss of more than 
>2 dB on all bands, except about 1 dB on 80.
>
>An alternative, and what I am using here, is to feed the 130 foot cf 
>antenna with lower loss window line and a balun at the bottom, with a 
>short length of coax to a tuner. Window line is lighter (less sag), 
>cheaper and has less loss than coax.
>
>The same discussion about names could take place in the window line 
>realm <g>!
>
>Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
>Westport, CT
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of John F.
>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM
>To: tentec@contesting.com; Jim Allen
>Subject: [TenTec] Zepp?
>
>Jim,
>I like the sound of Zepp better than dipole.  Actually it's probably a 
>matter of semantics, and I'm not going to argue how many angels will 
>fit on the head of a pin! ;>)  There is a reason I called it a zepp, 
>and I think it was in the 95 or 98 Handbook.  Terms many have changed by
now.
>
>I actually think it's a dipole only on 80 meters, and technically a 
>doublet on the other bands!  Ooops, I did it!
>
>73,
>John, K4AVX
>
>Yes the balun, I think is a 9 to one.  It will load and put out a 
>signal on all bands except 160 meters.  Trying to work out an inverted 
>L again on that band - tricky.
>
>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:46:59 -0500
>> From: Jim Allen<jim.allen@longhornband.net>
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment<tentec@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle Tuner
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>> What makes a 130' center fed dipole a Zepp?
>>
>> 73 de W6OGC  Jim Allen
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP<Rick@dj0ip.de>
>wrote:
>>
>>> That is an excellent setup, John.  Nice choice.
>>>
>>> I'm a friend of that antenna too and have used it most of the time 
>>> for the past 50 years.
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