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Re: [TenTec] Orion I no tx/rx

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion I no tx/rx
From: Mike LaRoche <barreherbalist@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:03:49 -0400
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I'll do the cleaning and reset tonight and check back with the results.
Thanks to everyone for your input!!


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:

> There's a good photo of the back of the front panel at
> http://www.tentecwiki.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=orion_batt1.jpg clearly
> showing the two ribbon cables and the yellow battery about 6 inches to the
> left of them.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Also, if you do disconnect those connectors, be careful to gently nudge
> > them up by the connector body and don't simply yank on the ribbon cable
> or
> > you'll risk separating the cable from its connector.  Those ribbon cable
> > terminations and strain reliefs are inherently not very strong.
> >
> > Barry N1EU
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I tend to agree with Carl.  It doesn't sound like a classic A9 power
> >> distrib board capacitor issue with symptoms of rebooting esp during
> xmit.
> >> It also doesn't sound like a classic battery issue with symptoms of lost
> >> rig configuration.  However, if it was me, I would probably go ahead and
> >> replace the battery while you have the front panel opened (see
> >> http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565battery )
> >>
> >> Before you do all that, you might consider reflashing the firmware
> >> (assuming the rig is connected to your computer) and see if that helps.
> >>
> >> 73, Barry N1EU
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> yes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> >>> 58 Hogwood Rd
> >>> Louisburg, NC 27549
> >>> www.n4py.com
> >>>
> >>> On 7/10/2014 10:19 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Carl, do you mean the ribbon cable connectors?
> >>>>
> >>>> Barry N1EU
> >>>> <http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=565battery>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Carl Moreschi<n4py3@earthlink.net>
> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  This sounds like the classic dirty connector behind the front panel
> >>>>> problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There's a couple of connectors with about 200 connections on it
> behind
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> Orion front panel. There's so many connections that you can get
> almost
> >>>>> any
> >>>>> symptom from this. These connections should have been gold but they
> are
> >>>>> not.  So they need to be cleaned.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's actually not very difficult to get to.  You remove the front
> >>>>> panel.
> >>>>> Then unplug the big connectors and spray them thoroughly with a good
> >>>>> electrical contact cleaner.  Then, while they are wet, plug and
> unplug
> >>>>> them
> >>>>> about 20 times to clean them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had this on my Orion when it had intermittent symptoms and this
> >>>>> completely fixed it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After doing this do a complete reset as follows:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) Power off Orion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2) Power On holding the VFO B LCK button.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3) Continue holding LCK button until the radio says "Battery
> Failure".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4) Power off Orion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 5) Power on holding "Main RX/TX" button.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 6) Continue holding this button until the radio says reset complete.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 7) Do not clear any settings when asked to do so.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 8) Power the Orion off and back on one more time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> >>>>> 58 Hogwood Rd
> >>>>> Louisburg, NC 27549
> >>>>> www.n4py.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/10/2014 10:00 AM, Mike LaRoche wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  I signed up for this mailing list with the hope of never having to
> ask
> >>>>>> help
> >>>>>> with a problem....alas this is not to be the case....
> >>>>>> A couple weeks ago I turned on the Orion and it went through the
> >>>>>> normal
> >>>>>> start-up and I first thought "wow the band is quiet" however the
> >>>>>> scope was
> >>>>>> flat, no rx, keyed the mike, no tx. After a few frantic minutes
> >>>>>> checking
> >>>>>> all connections and making sure I didn't change something on the
> radio
> >>>>>> suddenly it started working FB. About a week later the same thing
> >>>>>> happened
> >>>>>> but this time it didn't come around on it's own, a few minutes after
> >>>>>> performing a master reset it started working again (WHEW!) A few day
> >>>>>> ago
> >>>>>> the same thing happened only this time I'm not so lucky and so far
> >>>>>> hasn't
> >>>>>> worked. A search of the archives found some info on power supply
> >>>>>> issues
> >>>>>> with a similar condition but switching power supplies didn't help. I
> >>>>>> had
> >>>>>> not operated the radio between the times the problems occurred. I'm
> >>>>>> hoping
> >>>>>> one of the many gurus here has the answer!
> >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help
> >>>>>> 73
> >>>>>> Mike ND1W
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