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Re: [TenTec] The memory keyer in my Orion still cuts off the first dash

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] The memory keyer in my Orion still cuts off the first dash of the K at the front of my call. I've tried several suggestions but none work. I'm running the 3.0X software. Any other thoughts?
From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:20:17 -0500
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Perhaps Carl is correct in that a Master Reset should be done. I agree, the dropping of the first element should not take place. At present it does not occur on the three current production Tentec radios on my desk.

Another clue regarding a suggested Master Reset is the version of firmware being used. I would presume it was downloaded and installed and a Master Reset was not done. Although not specifically required, I've found the when changing firmware versions, I prefer to err on the side of "just do a Master Reset" and start from scratch.

As you likely know I do a lot of beta testing thus I'm frequently loading and reloading different versions of firmware. Thus I'm going back to earlier versions and then to the version under evaluation for several instances. In doing this, I find it very prudent to always implement a Master Reset. It gives me a much clearer picture of what I'm experiencing.

I view this as no different than our computers when we perform a suggested or recommended upgrade. We often see the message appear, "It is necessary to restart the computer for the changes to take effect".

73
Bob, K4TAX


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brown" <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] The memory keyer in my Orion still cuts off the first dash of the K at the front of my call. I've tried several suggestions but none work. I'm running the 3.0X software. Any other thoughts?


On 9/21/2013 12:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
I have had to add some characters in front of a data string to allow one of the radios for another application to key up and start transmitting.

Now that being the case, as your configuration drops the first dash of your call, why not add a "T" in front of your call. It would then drop the "T" and send your call.

TK2XN.   If the "T" is missing then K2XN would be legally transmitted.

There's a far better cure, and which Ten Tec has used since the Omni A. The cure is to activate the PTT relay 8-10 msec before sending RF. In other words, delay RF by 8-10 msec. As I recall, that pre-TX keying signal is called the "T-line" in that older gear. In some newer Ten Tec gear you have to go in and find it, then bring it out to the rear panel. I think I had to do that in my Omni V. The delay is built into many other rigs, like the TS-850, FT-1000-series, K2, and K3. In the FT1000-series and the K3, the delay is adjustable via a menu. In the 850 and K2, it's fixed at something like 8-10 msec. I've successfully used an 850, MP, and K3 to key my Titan, Herc II, and Herc I (long ago sold). And it's even fast enough to follow QSK up to about 25 wpm. At faster speeds the CW elements get too short.

73, Jim K9YC
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