re: Whining...
I got my extra in the '70s...back when the 20 wpm code was required.
The code gave me fits, the theory not so much. Got it(!) and never
looked back. The test at that time was difficult because it was made
to 'weed-out'. Questions about aspects of the hobby that I never was
interested in, have never participated in, and have no intention of
trying. It was(!) and had to be overcome to get the privileges. Nuff
said about that!
"Elmers":While I am not the brightest star in the sky (having
forgotten more than I know) I still have a lot of practical knowledge
floating around inside my head. Antennas that I put up generally stay
up and work and I vaguely remember the differences between AC and
DC... I have offered and offered and offered to help new hams without
any strings attached but they don't seem to want any help! Maybe the
'younguns' think they know it all(?) Maybe they are just not
interested in ???. I don't know, but: 1. ) I have offered multiple
times and 2.) have had few respond.
Point is: There are still "Elmers".
Enough ranting! What does this have to do with Ten-Tec?
73 to all!
Wheatie, NY4O
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> 1. Re: extra whining (wade staggs)
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> 3. Re: extra whining (Jim Vohland)
> 4. Re: Extra...Extra... (Richards)
> 5. Extra privileges (Paul DeWitte)
> 6. Re: extra whining (Floyd Rodgers)
> 7. Re: Best Travel Rig. (Don Allen)
> 8. Re: Best Travel Rig. (george fritkin)
> 9. Re: Best Travel Rig. (Randall Graham)
> 10. Re: Best travel rig. (Joe)
> 11. Re: extra whining (John K3GHH)
> 12. RX366 (John Henry)
> 13. Re: 600 Meters, anyone? (Jerry Haigwood)
> 14. Re: RX366 (Bill Lathan)
> 15. RX366 (n4dxi@arrl.net)
> 16. Re: RX366 (Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP)
> 17. Re: RX366 (BobK8IA@aol.com)
> 18. Re: 600 Meters, anyone? (Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP)
> 19. Re: RX366 (amsctalx@comcast.net)
> 20. Re: Best travel rig. (george fritkin)
> 21. Re: extra whining (Richards)
> 22. Re: Best HF Travel Rig (Bwana Bob)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:13:14 -0600
> From: wade staggs <tvman1954@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] extra whining
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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> *The Advanced test was a real Bugger Bear. I believe that everyone who took
> it will agree with that. Yes, the new Extra test is much easier ( Just took
> it and passed with Computer software ) Lots easier than when I took the
> Advanced and then Extra ( or so it seemed to me ). But, you are 100%
> correct that all you need to do is what is required at the time the test is
> given. My issue is with the folks who have an Extra Class Ticket and don't
> know how to even turn on an Ohm Meter and think I am speaking a different
> language when talking about SWR, ERP, or even Repeater Offsets on 2 meters.
> A guy in our club bought a radio and was going to send it back because it
> would not key the local repeater. I setup the proper CTCSS Tone for him and
> all was well. ( PL tone for us older guys ) This guy has a General Class
> ticket. So, my question is simple, where have all the Elmers gone?*
> *
> Wade/KJ4WS*
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM, <Rsoifer@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not suggesting that they toughen the exam, only that the present one is
>> so easy that anyone who wants the Extra privileges can pass it if he wants
>> to. Jim and I aren't better than you for having gotten our Extras in the
>> 1950s, just older. We did what was required at the time, same as you did.
>>
>> As for bad operating on 75, bad operators come in all flavors. I mostly
>> stay on CW where there are fewer of them.
>>
>> 73 Ray W2RS
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:23:13 GMT
> From: "lunenburg@juno.com" <lunenburg@juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] extra whining
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <20120216.152313.10712.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
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> Remember when they asked you to draw schematics of filter and detector
> circuits, etc?
> Paul
> KS2S
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: wade staggs <tvman1954@gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] extra whining
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:13:14 -0600
>
> *The Advanced test was a real Bugger Bear. I believe that everyone who took
> it will agree with that. Yes, the new Extra test is much easier ( Just took
> it and passed with Computer software ) Lots easier than when I took the
> Advanced and then Extra ( or so it seemed to me ). But, you are 100%
> correct that all you need to do is what is required at the time the test is
> given. My issue is with the folks who have an Extra Class Ticket and don't
> know how to even turn on an Ohm Meter and think I am speaking a different
> language when talking about SWR, ERP, or even Repeater Offsets on 2 meters.
> A guy in our club bought a radio and was going to send it back because it
> would not key the local repeater. I setup the proper CTCSS Tone for him and
> all was well. ( PL tone for us older guys ) This guy has a General Class
> ticket. So, my question is simple, where have all the Elmers gone?*
> *
> Wade/KJ4WS*
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM, <Rsoifer@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not suggesting that they toughen the exam, only that the present one is
>> so easy that anyone who wants the Extra privileges can pass it if he wants
>> to. Jim and I aren't better than you for having gotten our Extras in the
>> 1950s, just older. We did what was required at the time, same as you did.
>>
>> As for bad operating on 75, bad operators come in all flavors. I mostly
>> stay on CW where there are fewer of them.
>>
>> 73 Ray W2RS
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:34:28 -0500
> From: Jim Vohland <n9vo@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] extra whining
> To: "kc5qbc@swbell.net" <kc5qbc@swbell.net>, Discussion of Ten-Tec
> Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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> I always tell them if it's so easy, let's sit down and take a practice extra
> test on qrz. Not too many takers. They usually change subject.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 16, 2012, at 2:40 PM, "Floyd Rodgers" <kc5qbc@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Ok, guys same old drum song, it was harder when I did mine than when you
>> did yours. Really?
>> I always say if you want to get the sticker for whatever, you have to do
>> what is required when you get it (harder or easier)
>> If you really think it was tougher/better, why is it a large percentage
>> of the extras on 75m who do the offensive stuff are the older ones?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:36:34 -0500
> From: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Extra...Extra...
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <4F3D68D2.8090408@ameritech.net>
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> My wife says that about my snoring...
>
> ------------------ Anonymous - K8JHR --------------------
>
> On 2/16/2012 10:22 AM, jack wrote:
>> my wife likes to know I am in the house and almost welcomes the beeping from
>> the basement!
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:44:30 -0600
> From: "Paul DeWitte" <k9ot@yousq.net>
> Subject: [TenTec] Extra privileges
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <04E3D2765F824B8EA564EC30C04ECE31@maindesk>
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> I got my Extra somewhere around 89. That does not make me any better or
> worse than the guy that got his yesterday or 40 years ago. BUT it does have
> its benefits.
>
> I am primarily a CW DX chaser, and most of the DXpeditions operate in the
> extra portion of the CW band.
>
> It also means that in a contest you can start at the bottom of the band and
> work your way up the band and not have to worry about being out of your
> segment.
>
> Despite what was said in a post on here, there is activity other than
> contests in the Extra portion.
>
> Congrats to the guy who said that he passed his Extra. I hope that you enjoy
> it and take advantage of the privilages.
>
> Other than I use T T radios and have since 86, I cant see what this has to
> do with T T.
>
> 73 Paul K9OT
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:52:43 -0600
> From: Floyd Rodgers <kc5qbc@swbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] extra whining
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <4F3D6C9B.8020503@swbell.net>
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> I have the same thought about where are the elmers? I also look at
> licenses held by club members. Sadly my club is tech heavy and there
> doesn't seem to be much desire in the group to change it. I'm thinking
> that's another indication of sleeping elmers. If WE don't teach and
> inspire the puppies, whose fault is it they are not excited about
> pushing the limits.
> Now I'll really open pandora's box. Seems to me when the hobby took that
> shift to EMCOM a decade or so back emphasis on technical prowess went to
> the wayside.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:00:41 -0600
> From: Don Allen <w9cw@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best Travel Rig.
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4F3D6E79.9050806@yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> On 2/16/2012 2:00 PM, tentec-request@contesting.com wrote:
>> On 2/16/2012 8:59 AM, Kris Merschrod wrote:
>>> > This will be shocker, but the Yaesu 857D, has been an easy rig to carry
>>> > around from place to place - I've run it from car batteries and also
>>> > power
>>> > supplies.
>
>> It's cute and convenient, but both the RX and the TX are pure crap.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> That is certainly true with the FT-857D RX (wideband RX), and after all
> the TX is 160 thru 440. It's not even in the same ball park, let alone
> league, with any Ten-Tec RX. However, the criticism is a bit harsh on
> the TX in some tested specs (at least according to the ARRL)...
>
> FT-857D TX IMD 3rd Order -25dB, 5th Order -40dB
> Eagle TX IMD 3rd Order -28dB, 5th Order -40dB
>
> I'm certain the Eagle's IMD specs have improved since the ARRL PR.
>
> Having been a Ten-Tec owner since 1978, I love their rigs. But, if a
> rig exists that covers basically everything, especially in case of an
> emergency... albeit comparatively poorly... it's still better than not
> having capability on those freqs when you just might need it.
>
> Don W9CW
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:32:38 -0800 (PST)
> From: george fritkin <georgefritkin@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best Travel Rig.
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
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> All wrong! ?I travel with my OMNI ll and AL-1500. ?Of course ?it does help to
> have a 40 foot motor home and a BIG diesel generator. ?And thank goodness for
> Direct TV. ?No TVI
>
> 73
> de
> George, W6GF
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Don Allen <w9cw@yahoo.com>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best Travel Rig.
>
> On 2/16/2012 2:00 PM, tentec-request@contesting.com wrote:
>> On 2/16/2012 8:59 AM, Kris Merschrod wrote:
>>> >? This will be shocker, but the Yaesu 857D, has been an easy rig to carry
>>> >? around from place to place - I've run it from car batteries and also
>>> >power
>>> >? supplies.
>
>> It's cute and convenient, but both the RX and the TX are pure crap.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> That is certainly true with the FT-857D RX (wideband RX),? and after all
> the TX is 160 thru 440.? It's not even in the same ball park, let alone
> league, with any Ten-Tec RX.? However, the criticism is a bit harsh on
> the TX in some tested specs (at least according to the ARRL)...
>
> FT-857D? TX IMD 3rd Order -25dB, 5th Order -40dB
> Eagle? TX IMD 3rd Order -28dB, 5th Order -40dB
>
> I'm certain the Eagle's IMD specs have improved since the ARRL PR.
>
> Having been a Ten-Tec owner since 1978, I love their rigs.? But, if a
> rig exists that covers basically everything, especially in case of an
> emergency... albeit comparatively poorly... it's still better than not
> having capability on those freqs when you just might need it.
>
> Don W9CW
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:42:00 -0500 (EST)
> From: Randall Graham <rhgaeg@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best Travel Rig.
> To: georgefritkin@yahoo.com, tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <8CEBB0AF312A536-920-2A0F1@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I like your mobile set up!!!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: george fritkin <georgefritkin@yahoo.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 3:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best Travel Rig.
>
>
> All wrong! I travel with my OMNI ll and AL-1500. Of course it does help to
> ave a 40 foot motor home and a BIG diesel generator. And thank goodness for
> irect TV. No TVI
> 73
> e
> eorge, W6GF
>
> _______________________________
> From: Don Allen <w9cw@yahoo.com>
> o: tentec@contesting.com
> ent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:00 PM
> ubject: Re: [TenTec] Best Travel Rig.
>
> n 2/16/2012 2:00 PM, tentec-request@contesting.com wrote:
> On 2/16/2012 8:59 AM, Kris Merschrod wrote:
>> > This will be shocker, but the Yaesu 857D, has been an easy rig to carry
>> > around from place to place - I've run it from car batteries and also power
>> > supplies.
>> It's cute and convenient, but both the RX and the TX are pure crap.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
> That is certainly true with the FT-857D RX (wideband RX), and after all
> he TX is 160 thru 440. It's not even in the same ball park, let alone
> eague, with any Ten-Tec RX. However, the criticism is a bit harsh on
> he TX in some tested specs (at least according to the ARRL)...
> FT-857D TX IMD 3rd Order -25dB, 5th Order -40dB
> agle TX IMD 3rd Order -28dB, 5th Order -40dB
> I'm certain the Eagle's IMD specs have improved since the ARRL PR.
> Having been a Ten-Tec owner since 1978, I love their rigs. But, if a
> ig exists that covers basically everything, especially in case of an
> mergency... albeit comparatively poorly... it's still better than not
> aving capability on those freqs when you just might need it.
> Don W9CW
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:42:34 -0600
> From: "Joe" <joe@n4yg.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best travel rig.
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <9D059C006E714F0A8E2E8184709F5B25@study>
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> Thanks Kris. I will take a look at the 857D.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kris Merschrod" <Kris@merschrod.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best travel rig.
>
>
> This will be shocker, but the Yaesu 857D, has been an easy rig to carry
> around from place to place - I've run it from car batteries and also power
> supplies. It covers from 160 to VHF, is so small, up to 100 watts, built in
> keyer, and the power output can be set to your heart's desire, etc., etc.
>
> Add a nice LDG tuner and it will all fit into a typical napsack or attach?
> case. For the "farm house" it could be hidden easily.
>
> Kris KM2KM
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:50:51 -0500
> From: John K3GHH <k3ghh@arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] extra whining
> To: tentec@contesting.com
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> On 02/16/2012 03:23 PM, lunenburg@juno.com wrote:
>> Remember when they asked you to draw schematics of filter and detector
>> circuits, etc?
>> Paul
>> KS2S
>>
> Ha! There were probably a half dozen schematics on the Conditional exam
> I took, as a 15-year-old, around 1959. I had them all memorized... by
> where they were in the License Manual! I'm not sure I had a clue as to
> what the circuits actually were. (Top of page 47... oh yeah, coil here,
> resistor to ground...) I don't know how many wound up on the actual
> exam, but somehow I did pass it.
>
> --
> John K3GHH
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:04:57 -0500
> From: John Henry <jhenry@tentec.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] RX366
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Just to let everyone know, the RX366 has been such a hot item, it is now
> sold out of it's first production run.
>
> --
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:07:40 -0600
> From: "Jerry Haigwood" <jerry@w5jh.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 600 Meters, anyone?
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <004601ccecf7$69263290$3b7297b0$@net>
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> Jim,
> I remember having a very long and heated discussion about "insensitive
> licensing" with Harry Daniels (sp?) the president of the ARRL at that time
> at one of the local Illinois hamfests. We had quite a crowd around us
> before we were through. I was not for "insensitive licensing" and of course
> the ARRL President was for it. We debated all the points for about 20
> minutes or so. I didn't convince him of his misguided ways but at least he
> knew my point of view. ;-)
> Jerry W5JH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim Lowman
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:58 PM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 600 Meters, anyone?
>
> Or, try having full privileges as a General (circa 1966) and have some
> of those privileges taken away by Incentive Licensing.
> I did upgrade to Advanced fairly soon but was mainly a CW operator, so
> those precious CW segments at the bottom of the bands were lost to me
> until I upgraded to Extra in 1997 after a 10-year hiatus from the hobby.
>
> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
>
> On 2/16/2012 4:06 AM, Franklin Tucker wrote:
>> That's how I felt when they took privileges away from General class to
> give
>> to Advanced& Extra.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>> On Behalf Of Richards
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:10 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 600 Meters, anyone?
>>
>> I kinda understand how ya feel... As Muddy Waters
>> (a/k/a McKinley Morganfield) says... "You can't lose what
>> you ain't never had."
>>
>> But if you DID HAVE it once... losing it ...well sorta sucks.
>> After all, you had to earn that privelege, and having earned
>> it, losing it would suck.
>>
>> Just My take.
>> ----------------------------- K8JHR ------------------------------
>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:09:30 -0600
> From: "Bill Lathan" <ak5k@arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] RX366
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <002201ccecf7$a8acb5b0$fa062110$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> John, out of curiosity, how many Eagles were manufactured in the first
> production run? Glad I got mine!
>
> Bill, AK5K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Henry [mailto:jhenry@tentec.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:05 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: [TenTec] RX366
>
> Just to let everyone know, the RX366 has been such a hot item, it is now
> sold out of it's first production run.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> John Henry, KI4JPL Phone: 865-453-7172 x234
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:09:49 -0500 (EST)
> From: "n4dxi@arrl.net" <n4dxi@aol.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] RX366
> To: tentec@contesting.com
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> Several weeks have elapsed since Tentec released the RX366 subreceiver
> upgrade for the Orion 2. I am interested in any remarks from those who
> have installed the RX355 in their Orion 2....is it a significant
> upgrade in your opinion? I'd like to use my Orion 2 with the main
> receiver running and the subreceiver looking for multipliers during
> contests....maybe the sub receiver using a vertical for non-directional
> searches while my main receiver using a Yagi to make the contact.
>
> I looked for the RX 366 info on the Tentec website...its not under the
> new products, not under the Orion 2 options, not under receivers, not
> under accessories....
>
> 73....John Bescher, N4DXI
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:18:59 +0100
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] RX366
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
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> Funny, the German Ten-Tec distributor has an excellent description on his
> web site:
> http://appello-funk.de/shop/de/tentec/transceiver/orion-ii/autotuner-nachrue
> stsatz-fuer-orion-2.htm
>
> He also has a nice description of the Model 318:
> http://appello-funk.de/shop/de/tentec/transceiver/eagle/luefter.htm
>
> YES, OF COURSE THEY ARE IN ENGLISH!
>
> 73
> Rick, DJ0IP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of n4dxi@arrl.net
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:10 PM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] RX366
>
> Several weeks have elapsed since Tentec released the RX366 subreceiver
> upgrade for the Orion 2. I am interested in any remarks from those who
> have installed the RX355 in their Orion 2....is it a significant
> upgrade in your opinion? I'd like to use my Orion 2 with the main
> receiver running and the subreceiver looking for multipliers during
> contests....maybe the sub receiver using a vertical for non-directional
> searches while my main receiver using a Yagi to make the contact.
>
> I looked for the RX 366 info on the Tentec website...its not under the
> new products, not under the Orion 2 options, not under receivers, not
> under accessories....
>
> 73....John Bescher, N4DXI
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:22:09 -0500 (EST)
> From: BobK8IA@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] RX366
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Cc: n4dxi@aol.com
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>
> John,
>
> I installed a beta RX366 in my Orion II about mid-Sept 2011 and have
> contested extensively with it ever since. Much of it in the N1MM SO2V mode
> you
> mention. K8IA and N7AT callsigns used here.
>
> It is a significant improvement over the stock sub-rx. When introduced to
> it for 2011 CQWW CW, one of the ops here (N7AT M/2) said, "sounds just like
> the Main receiver". That's was exactly my point to him.
>
> SO2V is now a pleasure with the 566/RX366 combo and definitely on par with
> my other radio, a two-rx K3.
>
>
> 73, Bob K8IA, President
> Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
> Club Call; N7AT
> Website: www.arizonaoutlaws.net
>
> -----------------
>
> In a message dated 2/16/2012 3:10:02 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> n4dxi@aol.com writes:
> Several weeks have elapsed since Tentec released the RX366 subreceiver
> upgrade for the Orion 2. I am interested in any remarks from those who
> have installed the RX355 in their Orion 2....is it a significant
> upgrade in your opinion? I'd like to use my Orion 2 with the main
> receiver running and the subreceiver looking for multipliers during
> contests....maybe the sub receiver using a vertical for non-directional
> searches while my main receiver using a Yagi to make the contact.
>
> I looked for the RX 366 info on the Tentec website...its not under the
> new products, not under the Orion 2 options, not under receivers, not
> under accessories....
>
> 73....John Bescher, N4DXI
>
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:41:47 +0100
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 600 Meters, anyone?
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
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> I was even more consequent.
> I chose to "Never Say Die" and followed Wayne Green (W2NSD), resigning from
> the league.
> At the time I thought it was the right thing to do.
> After all, in the age of flower power and Viet Nam war, I went into the
> army.
> I still had this pent up need to protest something. Instead of the war, I
> protested the league.
>
> In retrospect it was the wrong thing to do.
> I should have remained in the league and we should have voted out the guys
> that inflicted that upon us.
> I'm not against learning and improving, but for me, "incentive" means I gain
> something, not lose something.
> I was a conditional, living overseas with no way to take the license exam.
> I am an extra now.
>
> I agree that the tests have become easier. I don't think that is a bad
> thing.
> I was also one of the ones wearing a "No CW" badge in the late 1980's.
> My favorite mode is CW but I realized that the times had changed and felt we
> should highlight the incentives for learning code, not force it down
> people's throats.
> I believe I was right. I have watched lots of guys here in DL who were
> technicians for 20 years get codeless privileges on HF, and then become
> outstanding CW contesters!
>
> We now have 700,000 hams in the states.
> We need large numbers:
> - to have a strong enough voice to be able to keep our frequencies
> - to keep manufacturers interested in building radios for us
>
> Making the tests easier was necessary to continue to attract new blood into
> our hobby.
> The monkey is on our backs, we old timers, to step up to the plate and be
> the kind of Elmer we all had when we learned all that hard stuff way back
> when (mine was 1962, and although my test no longer required drawing the
> schematics, my Elmer made me draw them before he let me take the test).
>
> 73
> Rick, DJ0IP
> (Elmer Fudd)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Jerry Haigwood
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:08 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 600 Meters, anyone?
>
> Jim,
> I remember having a very long and heated discussion about "insensitive
> licensing" with Harry Daniels (sp?) the president of the ARRL at that time
> at one of the local Illinois hamfests. We had quite a crowd around us
> before we were through. I was not for "insensitive licensing" and of course
> the ARRL President was for it. We debated all the points for about 20
> minutes or so. I didn't convince him of his misguided ways but at least he
> knew my point of view. ;-)
> Jerry W5JH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim Lowman
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:58 PM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 600 Meters, anyone?
>
> Or, try having full privileges as a General (circa 1966) and have some
> of those privileges taken away by Incentive Licensing.
> I did upgrade to Advanced fairly soon but was mainly a CW operator, so
> those precious CW segments at the bottom of the bands were lost to me
> until I upgraded to Extra in 1997 after a 10-year hiatus from the hobby.
>
> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
>
> On 2/16/2012 4:06 AM, Franklin Tucker wrote:
>> That's how I felt when they took privileges away from General class to
> give
>> to Advanced& Extra.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>> On Behalf Of Richards
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:10 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 600 Meters, anyone?
>>
>> I kinda understand how ya feel... As Muddy Waters
>> (a/k/a McKinley Morganfield) says... "You can't lose what
>> you ain't never had."
>>
>> But if you DID HAVE it once... losing it ...well sorta sucks.
>> After all, you had to earn that privelege, and having earned
>> it, losing it would suck.
>>
>> Just My take.
>> ----------------------------- K8JHR ------------------------------
>>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:53:43 +0000 (UTC)
> From: amsctalx@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] RX366
> To: tentec@contesting.com
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> John -
>
> While I am happy for you and the rest of the organization that this product
> is successful, I am mildly heartbroken to read that they are sold out. I am
> traveling to Knoxville on business in a couple of weeks, and I was planning
> in picking one up during that trip. How long until the next batch is ready?
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Mike Alexander - N8MSA
>
> amsctalx@comcast.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Henry" <jhenry@tentec.com>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:04:57 PM
> Subject: [TenTec] RX366
>
> Just to let everyone know, the RX366 has been such a hot item, it is now
> sold out of it's first production run.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> John Henry, KI4JPL Phone: 865-453-7172 x234
> Engineering Direct: 865-868-4915
> TenTec, Inc. Fax: 865-428-4483
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> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:56:53 -0800 (PST)
> From: george fritkin <georgefritkin@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best travel rig.
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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> I have several choices of antennae depending how long we are going to stay at
> a location and how tolerant the park is. CC&Rs at motor home parks!!!!
>
> 73
> de
> George, W6GF
>
> PS: Now that I have an Eagle, the O'2 may stay home
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Joe <joe@n4yg.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best travel rig.
>
> Thanks Kris. I will take a look at the 857D.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kris Merschrod" <Kris@merschrod.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best travel rig.
>
>
> This will be shocker, but the Yaesu 857D, has been an easy rig to carry
> around from place to place - I've run it from car batteries and also power
> supplies.? It covers from 160 to VHF, is so small, up to 100 watts, built in
> keyer, and the power output can be set to your heart's desire, etc.,? etc.
>
> Add a nice LDG tuner and it will all fit into a typical napsack or attach?
> case.? For the "farm house" it could be hidden easily.
>
> Kris KM2KM
>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:50:49 -0500
> From: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] extra whining
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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> ____________________________________________________
>
> On 2/16/2012 3:13 PM, wade staggs wrote:
>
> So, my question is simple, where have all the Elmers gone?*
> ____________________________________________________
>
> Greetings !
>
> The guy has probably never asked for, or accepted, advice from
> experienced hams, and is probably too lazy to actually read the
> available material, inlcuding the exam guides and publications like the
> ARRL Operatior's Manual, which explain all these things.
>
>
> But... Hey... Please don't despair. ELMERS LIVE !
>
> I have some really swell Elmers.
>
> SEVERAL of them ... are on this list !
>
> A couple of local Elmers are retired aero-space radio engineers who
> invented radio controlled planes for the Air Force, and loads of cool
> stuff for NASA over the past 40 years. Together with what I learn
> here, and on a couple of other internet reflectors, I am getting a swell
> education... for FREE !
>
> Real Elmers are EVERYWHERE !!!
>
> Don't despair because you encountered a couple of lids... The world has
> always suffered dolts, and always will - but the good guys remain.
>
> In a short period of time, I have gone from merely soldering broken
> wires, to building basic radio and gadget kits, and then to building
> more substantial kits, such as the TenTec Model 1254 receiver, which is
> not a beginner kit. Now I am designing my own small circuits, testing
> and building, and even contemplating marketing one project that manages
> computer headset electret condenser microphones to better match a
> radios' mic input circuit.
>
> I am following good ham tradition and building all my audio and RF
> cables. I designed and built a two-radio amp-key-line switch box to
> isolate and switch the am key lines from multiple radios to my
> Centurion. I restored and re-built several ancient microphones
> including a 1947 Shure Unidyne 55 (Elvis Style) microphone and adapted
> it for ham use. I designed and am now building my own SO2R mic - phones
> - PTT - Key switch (adapted from an old computer parallel-port A/B
> Switch). I build my own speaker cabinets instead of buying them. I
> built all the desk and wall shelving, and the stands holding my station
> gear, including a new headset rack for the parts closet (yesterday.) I
> convert plain headphones into headset/microphone combinations.
>
> I build my own antennas (of which I am particularly proud), and have
> built loads of other little switch-adapter boxes for the shack (and for
> my guitar collection.)
>
> Some of these projects are very simple, but others have required
> research and design in addition to build work. But I can now design a
> circuit, draw a formal schematic (using software...) and order boards so
> others might build similar gadgets. Not rocket science, but in good
> old ham tradition of home brewing stuff. And I am progressing... some.
>
> And I managed to be voted to the Board of the Statewide linked repeater
> system.
>
> So... do not despair... Not only do good old fashioned Elmers remain in
> practice, some of us are following the good ham tradition and building
> stuff from scratch
> and trying hard to contribute something.
>
> Ham radio ...LIVES !
>
> And I am having fun. -------------------- K8JHR -------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:51:09 -0500
> From: Bwana Bob <wb2vuf@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Best HF Travel Rig
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Cc: Chad Lovelace <kj4vyi@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <4F3DB28D.40004@verizon.net>
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>
> My vacation rig for cabin camping is a TT Scout. The Scout, mic, key,
> band modules, power cable and Ten Tec power supply (the TPS P-11) all
> fit in an attache style tool chest purchased for $20 from Home Depot. A
> reel-out dipole (made from AN/CRT-3 life raft transmitter antenna reels)
> and coax go in a separate duffel bag.
>
> I have a couple of mods that improve the utility of the Scout:
>
> Replaced one 15 pf N1500 capacitor in the PTO with 15 pf NP0.
> Set the output power to 30 W to reduce current drain when running on
> battery. This also reduces heat from the final, which improves PTO
> thermal stability.
> Added a mini toggle switch on the rear, in place of the ground lug. The
> switch increases AGC voltage, reducing the receiver IF gain. This makes
> reception on 80 and 40 meters much less fatiguing.
>
> Hey, Chad,
>
> I would like to get a Rock Mite for my go bag. What band do you
> recommend? I'm thinking of either 40 or 30 m.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Bob WB2VUF
>
> On 2/14/2012 10:38 AM, Chad Lovelace wrote:
>> I had a argosy 525d a while back I took to my folk place was great -- small
>> and 50 watts was good with a straight key didn't have a mic with it simple
>> dipole and a small mfj tuner I was able to hit some islands in the Atlantic
>> and heard plenty of south America -- I also had a tt scout with a bunch of
>> modules that was easy to carry around was a le to put it in a soft side tool
>> bag I had. For power I had a small mfj mity power supply -- it was small and
>> 20 amps was plenty of power -- wish I would have kept those to have now when
>> I go to my folks place I don't really want to carry around my ft847 and the
>> bigger tuner -- I could do it but that would mean I would have to put every
>> thing in a large pelican case and it takes up too much room -- other than my
>> rockmite and a cut dipole thats only what I carry now and it goes in my go
>> bag I carry every day -- a Kata photo bag ( looks like a backpack with some
>> dividers to keep things organized ) and I have room for my iPad and wifi is
> j
>> ust about everywhere I can use that as my log, spots and qrz lookups
>>
>> I'm still on the hunt for either a tt scout a ic703 or an argosy 525d I
>> think I could get them in my gobag
>>
>> Good luck on finding what you can take to your farm !!
>>
>> Chad
>> KJ4VYI
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:01 AM, "Joe"<joe@n4yg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I travel to our farm several times a year, and while I am there, I cannot
>>> operate. I guess I could take one of the rigs I have here, but I am
>>> reluctant to leave a rig in the house because it has been broken into. I am
>>> just wondering if several people might like to suggest a good rig to take
>>> along. Small is good, but meduim size with an internal supply would be
>>> nice. It must be a good CW rig. Low priced would be good. I like Ten Tec,
>>> but any brand works.
>>>
>>> Joe
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