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Re: [TenTec] wither CW?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
From: d.e.warnick@comcast.net
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Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 00:14:52 +0000 (UTC)
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Different strokes for different folks. Each must live by his/her own standards. 



I choose to not use a cluster or CW copying software. The technology is there 
if I want it. The choice is mine. Then again, I know I'll never win a major 
contest. I'm happy with that. Of course, I never roll my ball when I play golf. 
I'm just anal. That doesn't mean that anyone else needs to be that way. In each 
case, I compete with only myself. For those with different goals, it's great. 
We sometimes forget that one of the great strengths of our sport (hobby) is the 
diversity of those who are part of it. Those who push the envelope help to 
advance the technology. God bless them for it. 



Maybe the years are creeping into my philosophy, but I love CW and SSB and 
digital modes. Since I discovered TenTec they have all gotten better. I choose 
to stay with them. Others don't and in fact shouldn't. 



Hope to see all of you on the air in one mode or another, in a contest or a rag 
chew or while just working DX 



Just my 2 cents worth 



73 

Dave 

WA3MKB 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net> 
To: "N4PY2" <n4py2@earthlink.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" 
<tentec@contesting.com> 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:45:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW? 



 Possibly I didn't clarify my point to the extent necessary.  I have nothing 
against the use of keyers, bugs (I use both) or even keyboards for sending. 



But nowadays one can find a DX station's frequency on a cluster, have the 
computer copy him and then press a button to send a canned transmission, and 
do all this without being able to copy his own name at 5 wpm.  These are the 
ones to which I referred, and I think there should be a scoring difference 
for those, compared to folks who actually do know the code at whatever 
level. 



It bothers me to hear someone say he worked  a station on CW, when in fact 
he can't copy or send at any speed. 



Phil C. Sr. 

k4dpk 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "N4PY2" <n4py2@earthlink.net> 
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com> 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW? 


> Nobody that is at all serious about contesting uses a straight key.  I 
> know 
> many contesters, many who are highly skilled at CW.  They all use keyers 
> with memories to send their CQ's and copy in their heads to get the QSO's. 
> All these people can easily copy CW at 40+ wpm in their heads.  The keyers 
> are just a mechanism to send the CW with.  It is almost impossible to send 
> CW at 20 wpm or higher with a straight key.  They do not use code readers. 
> Code readers are useless during typical QRM during a contest. 
> 
> Carl Moreschi N4PY 
> 121 Little Bell Drive 
> Hays, NC 28635 
> www.n4py.com 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richards" <jruing@ameritech.net> 
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com> 
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM 
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW? 
> 
> 
>>I don't want to hijack the thread or cause a flame war,  but I agree 
>> with the notion there should be more points awarded to contesters 
>> (contestants?) who actually pound out the code with their fist, and who 
>> do not use electronic keyers to generate transmitted code.  I thank we 
>> should reward the operator for HIS skill, not that of his computer.  I 
>> know this would slow the pace, and reduce the number of contacts,  but 
>> it would be the operator, and not his computer at work.   If contests, 
>> like field day, are to simulate high pressure, need to operate NOW, 
>> scenarios, then  he would need to have his own ability to pound the 
>> brass, as a computer may not be available. I don't use a voice keyer on 
>> SSB contests for the same reason.  If I can't talk for 24 hours, and the 
>> other guy can, he deserves to win. 
>> 
>> And, parenthetically, I'm finding this code thing terribly difficult  to 
>> learn! 
>> But I will get there, eventually... 
>> 
>> 
>> Just my take.... 
>> 
>> Happy trails. 
>> 
>> ====================  Richards - K8JHR ==================== 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/24/2010 4:56 PM, Jim Brown K9YC wrote: 
>> 
>>> Virtually ALL serious contesters use computers to SEND CW, 
>>> but the vast majority I know of use the computer between 
>>> his/her ears to COPY it. 
>>> 
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