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Re: [TenTec] OMNI VII vs. K3 ? Opinions invited.,

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI VII vs. K3 ? Opinions invited.,
From: "N4PY2" <n4py2@earthlink.net>
Reply-to: N4PY2 <n4py2@earthlink.net>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:51:26 -0400
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The Omni VII receiver is excellent at pulling out weak signals amoung very 
strong ones.  I really doubt you will ever find a situation where the K3 
will be better at this.  Look at the specs for it at Sherwood.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Drive
Hays, NC 28635
www.n4py.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick - NJ0IP / DJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI VII vs. K3 ? Opinions invited.,


> Nice info, Toby.
>
> My problem is, I'm both; rag chewer and contester.
> But your other good point is something I need to consider.
> Like you, I sometimes don't turn on the rig for weeks or even months at a
> time.
> And at my age, we all forget.
>
> I have an FT-900 which I use for occasional rag chewing.
> It has NO Menus.
> Everything has a knob.
> And that is one of my favorite rigs of all times.
> I move it around in the house or out to the patio and use it wherever I 
> am.
>
> When a contest comes, I turn to my contest rig.
> The Omni VI was good because there were few menu adjustments to make.
> The Omni VII was best because I didn't need the book much, after initially
> studying it.
> On this feature, it beats the K3 hands down.
>
> But what if I need a real weak one in the contest, and there is lots of
> QRM....
> The K3 beats about anything except the high end rigs.
>
> A lot of people keep bringing up the price of "full blown".
> I don't need that.
> I need a good transceiver.
> One SSB filter and one CW filter.
> We talking just over $2K.
> If you add in the band filter and 6kHz filter so that you get the general
> coverage RX, it comes in at the same price as the Omni VII.
> Viola!
>
> I'm going to read the manual for the K3 and study its setup procedures.
> If it scares me off, I will buy the O7.
>
> 73
> Rick
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Toby Pennington
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:33 PM
> To: Ten Tec List
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI VII vs. K3 ? Opinions invited.,
>
> I have not owned a Omni 7,  but I have owned two K3s over the past 12
> months.
>
> I sold the first K3 after trying to figure out how to use it.   Probably 
> had
> it about two weeks.
>
> The Second K3 was fully loaded and a late serial number.  This radio blew 
> a
> speaker audio chip,  and had to be sent back to Aptos for repair.  I
> probably had this one about a month.
>
> Both were bought used for a good price so did not lose a lot on resale.
> However,  the second rig if bought at todays prices would cost over 
> $5,000,
> so it is not really a low priced rig if fully featured....and in fact can 
> be
> very expensive.
>
> I tend to agree with Carl,  N4PY,  if you are not going to do serious
> contesting, or operate diversity receive,  it would be best to get 
> something
> more appropriate for what your style of operating is.  This rig is not 
> easy
> to set up and learn,  and will take a number of weeks plus several phone
> calls to Elecraft to get you out of messes you get yourself into.
>
> After about a month,  you should have every thing in the menus set up and
> operation should be easier.  However,   if you only operate the rig for a
> day or so every now and then,  you will forget how some things worked.
>
> MY biggest complaint with the K3 is there are no dedicated band buttons, 
> or
> band stacking registers,  and you are forced to work from the memories.
>
> I don't want to be negative,  as Elecraft rapidly over a two year period,
> has implemented the full feature set as originally advertised two years 
> ago.
> They have been good to their word with the feature set,  and keep in touch
> with their customers via their website and reflectors.  Updates come along
> frequently and the firmware has few bugs.  Bugs are fixed very quickly.
>
> Elecraft is on a roll and moving along with an excellent rig.  However, 
> if
> you are a rag chewer and not into contesting, or you are just a casual
> operator,  I think it would be best to choose a rig that is more intuitive
> and easier to operate.
>
> Toby    W4CAK
>
>
>
>
>
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