It is my understanding that the K3 is a superb CW rig...but not even in the
same ballpark as OII for SSB???
Am I missinformed?
73,
Lee, KC9CDT
-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Shock <douglas.shock@gmail.com>
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
that is correct...
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Philip C. Anderson
xtraham58@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
Not that it matters to me, but it is my understanding that ON4UN is now
using 2 loaded K'3s.
> From: marsh@ka5m.net
> To: tentec@contesting.com; douglas.shock@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:10:27 -0600
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
>
> Douglas,
>
> What is your source of information for your following statement?
>
> "If it was such a great and finished product then why did most if not all
of
> the Ham Radio's Top contest-DX operators bail on TenTec?"
>
> What did they bail to?
>
> The National Contest Journal July/August 2009 Volume 37 Number 4 contains
an
> extensive article on "Choosing an HF Radio for Serious Contesting and
> DXing". Of the four (4) transceivers the author picks, the Ten-Tec ORION
II
> is one of them.
>
> I'm not convinced that I've ever missed a DX or contest QSO that I could
> have worked if I had been using something better than my ORION II.
>
> 73,
> Marsh, KA5M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:
tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Douglas Shock
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:02 AM
> To: Scott Harwood; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
>
> Whiners? Do you really feel that was required Scott? So your level of
> expectation on a delivered product is different than others. I personally
> find no fault in OI-OII owners holding TenTec's feet to the fire on the
> marketing campaign they used for both radios. that hardly makes me a
whiner.
> If it was such a great and finished product then why did most if not all
of
> the Ham Radio's Top contest-DX operators bail on TenTec? Maybe they knew
> something you don't?
>
> Sure, in its base form it is a fair radio. But face the facts man...you
> really believe they got the firmware right? And to release a beta with
> enhancements that in themselves are broke but no fixes and then are never
> heard from again? Sounds like the joke is on the operator if you support
> this business practice.
>
> So drive on if you still drink the TenTec coolaid or just find it
necessary
> to defend your spent monies. But respect the rights of others homie...
>
> Hiding behind your keyboard with big mouth and no accountability is not a
> good thing.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Scott Harwood
> <scotthsr@earthlink.net>wrote:
>
> > I couldn't have said it better, Dennis.
> >
> > Good job. I hope enough "whiners" read it.
> >
> > Palstar does have great stuff. I have two tuners. They could improve on
> > answering emails, though.
> >
> > Scott K4VWK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Dennis OConnor <ad4hk2004@yahoo.com>
> > >Sent: Nov 11, 2009 8:37 AM
> > >To: tentec@contesting.com
> > >Subject: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
> > >
> > >Hmmm, some of you need to cut back on the coffee...
> > >
> > >The O2 is a fine radio, well positioned in the upper reaches of ham
radio
> > transceivers...
> > >The biggest whine I see is that they are not producing enough firmware
> > changes to make you happy..
> > >It appears that some believe the K3 radio with its rapid parade of
> > firmware revisions is somehow superior because it needs frequent
revising
> -
> > this does not bespeak superior, to me; adaptable maybe, a secondary
hobby
> in
> > it's own right, but not necessarily superior......
> > >
> > >Then I read the moaning about the O2 sweep; and they didn't do this,
they
> > didn't do that, etc...
> > >Last time I checked the ads the K3 does not have a sweep screen... But
> > somehow, not having a sweep screen makes it the superior radio, because
> > Orion is not upgrading its sweep screen fast enough - the logic of that
> > escapes me...
> > >If you want a radio with a fancy sweep screen get a Pro III...
> > >If you want an even fancier sweep screen get an LP PAN for your Orion
/
> > K3...
> > >
> > >If you want an even fancier radio get one of the $11K to $13K models
> from
> > the land of the rising sun - but don't expect the factory to answer the
> > phone and put the technician that built and aligned your radio on the
> phone
> > to talk you through a problem - which both Orion and Elecraft do
> > routinely...
> > >
> > >I happen to have the O2... I have looked hard at the K3 with the more
> > capable sub receiver - as recently as 2 weeks ago... But, the less
> > desirable ergonomics of the radio outweigh the receiver advantage and I
> > opted to stay with the Orion for the third year... The O2 has the best
> > combination of receiver and ergonomics I have found in 45 years of ham
> > radio...
> > >
> > >Lastly, I am thrilled to have Ten Tec and Elecraft slugging it out in
the
> > ham radio arena... A vast improvement over the import radios that have
> > dominated the ham business for some time..
> > >And while I am mentioning US companies, let me point out that PALSTAR
> > acquired the Commander amplifiers and has put considerable time,
> innovation,
> > and money, into improving those amps until they appear to me, to be the
> best
> > amps in the business... They now have a complete line of tuners, meters
> and
> > high quality amps... You could do a lot worse than spend your ham
dollars
> > with them - and drive that amp with a new O2 or K3...
> > >
> > >denny / k8do
> > >
> > >
> > >
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