Mr Castro seems determined that I continue to get the Ten Tec reflector even
though I have continually requested it be stopped. Does anyone have any
suggestions to "UNSUBSCRIBE" ? I get way to many messages to read even
though they should be batched.
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> 1. balanced antenna tuner ( or how to do things on the cheap -
> tribute to Geoff's drive for cost effect (Marinus Loewensteijn)
> 2. Re: New hams (doesn't matter what generation)
> (Geoffrey S. Mendelson)
> 3. Re: TRX-Manager & Orion II (Edward A. Feustel)
> 4. Re: balanced antenna tuner ( or how to do things on the cheap
> - tribute to Geoff's drive for cost effect (Geoffrey S. Mendelson)
> 5. Re: TRX-Manager & Orion II (Don)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:44:53 +0000
> From: Marinus Loewensteijn <mjloewensteijn@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] balanced antenna tuner ( or how to do things on the
> cheap - tribute to Geoff's drive for cost effect
> To: "tentec@contesting.com" <tentec@contesting.com>
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> Geoff
>
> In your drive for equipment on the cheap I like to draw your attention to
> the S-Match as promoted by PA0FRI:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~pa0fri/ATU/Smatch/smatcheng.htm
>
> It uses only three components, tunes very easily and can handle both
> balanced as unbalanced antennas. Unfortunately you may have to build a
> different version for 160m than for 10m because minimum capacitance values
> do have an impact.
>
> It should be the ideal beginner's project, in particular if I see prices
> asked for "commercial" antenna tuners and which often contribute a
> considerable expense towards establishing a station.
>
> By the way - even with the older tentec gear like the Omni-C one does not
> need a SWR meter since that is already built in to the rig. (And
> "standalone" SWR meter's prices are through the roof for such a simple
> piece of equipment)
>
> Enjoy, 73, Marinus, ZL2ML
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:37:42 +0300
> From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] New hams (doesn't matter what generation)
> To: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>
> Cc: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:15:57PM -1000, Ken Brown wrote:
>> it may as well have the 2.8 kHz for SSB and CW both. Those who have the
>> initiative to try CW will be able to make plenty of QSOs with a 2.8 kHz
>> filter.
>
> Actually they can't. I am a special case, I can't copy cw with a second
> signal, whether it's cw, voice or music as in the opening of the
> the TV show Jericho. I can however, copy 35wpm from signals most
> people can't even hear, burried in the noise.
>
> Most of the people I know can't seperate musical notes, sounds or
> cw signals. That's why they went into computers.
>
>
>> I'm saying you don't have to add a filter to give the rig CW capability.
>> You were claiming that the absolute necessity of a narrow filter for a
>> new ham to operate CW, along with other complexities of CW transmitting
>> would make the rig too expensive, and it should therefore not have CW
>> capability.
>
> Sort of. I'm not saying that it should not be able to have CW capability
> added, in fact, I would insist on it if I were designing it. What I am
> saying is that it should not have it included to both lower the price,
> even if it were a few dollars retail, and to add the perception that
> it's not being paid for when it is not wanted.
>
>
>
>
>> Not many VHF/UHF rigs have been sold with SSB capability either, except
>> those that also had HF capability. Come to think of it, SSB being so
>> difficult for a beginner to tune, why not just go FM on the HF bands to
>> make it even more effortless for these lazy new generation hams to use
>> HF? We could save a few bucks using a FM discriminator and no BFO. Much
>> simpler transmit circuitry with FM too. Divide the HF bands up into
>> channels, as you suggested earlier.
>
> If you have never worked HF FM, IMHO you are missing a treat. When the
> band is open, you can talk to people hundreds if not thousands of miles
> away, with no noise and clear audio. It's also an amazing way of
> introducing
> HF to hams whose only radio is a 2m HT.
>
>
>
>> Got a copy good buddy? I can turn on my foot warmer, and it doesn't
>> even need to be leenyur, cuz we're ratchet jawin' in FM. Ten Four?
>
> That's just being silly :-)
>
> Geoff.
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:40:13 -0400
> From: "Edward A. Feustel" <efeustel@hughes.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] TRX-Manager & Orion II
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <48183E7D.80504@hughes.net>
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>
> Chuck & Vicki Tifft wrote:
>> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Logger
>> 32... a free bee from K4CY..And it is a one of the very best logger
>> programs at any price.
>> W6RD
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick M. Mott"
>> <ab8ah@embarqmail.com>
>> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:48 PM
>> Subject: [TenTec] TRX-Manager & Orion II
>>
>>
>>> The last two days I have been trying to get the Orion II to work
>>> (communicate) with TRX-Manager. It does not work for me. Is there any
>>> other logging program that will work with the Orion II so that the band,
>>> frequency, and mode will flow into the logging program. It must be a
>>> windows
>>> based program that will run on XP. Fred, AB8AH
> Fred,
> The last time I checked, TRX-Manager did not work with any generation of
> Orions.
>
> Consider XMLOG. It works well on the Orion (565) and Ham Radio Deluxe.
> A great deal depends on what you use it for. Is this for contest logging
> or for casual use?
> I personally like XMLOG for casual logging. It is free, but if you like
> it, please contribute
> to its continued development. (see www.xmlog.com)
> HRD is very good for controlling, but the logging function is a bit
> limited -- of course you can
> export the log to another program.
> Ed, N5EI
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:42:01 +0300
> From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] balanced antenna tuner ( or how to do things on
> the cheap - tribute to Geoff's drive for cost effect
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <20080430094201.GB11863@cable.mendelson.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:44:53AM +0000, Marinus Loewensteijn wrote:
>
>
>
>> In your drive for equipment on the cheap I like to draw your attention
>> to the S-Match as promoted by PA0FRI:
>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~pa0fri/ATU/Smatch/smatcheng.htm
>
> Thanks, that's a wonderful idea.
>
>
>> By the way - even with the older tentec gear like the Omni-C one does
>> not need a SWR meter since that is already built in to the rig. (And
>> "standalone" SWR meter's prices are through the roof for such a simple
>> piece of equipment)
>
> That's true, obviously a feature I would want to include. Thanks.
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:42:39 -0400
> From: "Don" <w4to@tds.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] TRX-Manager & Orion II
> To: <efeustel@hughes.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
> <tentec@contesting.com>
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>
> Try DX4WIN
>
> Don W4TO
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward A. Feustel" <efeustel@hughes.net>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] TRX-Manager & Orion II
>
>
>> Chuck & Vicki Tifft wrote:
>>> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Logger
>>> 32... a free bee from K4CY..And it is a one of the very best logger
>>> programs at any price.
>>> W6RD
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick M. Mott"
>>> <ab8ah@embarqmail.com>
>>> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:48 PM
>>> Subject: [TenTec] TRX-Manager & Orion II
>>>
>>>
>>>> The last two days I have been trying to get the Orion II to work
>>>> (communicate) with TRX-Manager. It does not work for me. Is there any
>>>> other logging program that will work with the Orion II so that the
>>>> band,
>>>> frequency, and mode will flow into the logging program. It must be a
>>>> windows
>>>> based program that will run on XP. Fred, AB8AH
>> Fred,
>> The last time I checked, TRX-Manager did not work with any generation of
>> Orions.
>>
>> Consider XMLOG. It works well on the Orion (565) and Ham Radio Deluxe.
>> A great deal depends on what you use it for. Is this for contest logging
>> or for casual use?
>> I personally like XMLOG for casual logging. It is free, but if you like
>> it, please contribute
>> to its continued development. (see www.xmlog.com)
>> HRD is very good for controlling, but the logging function is a bit
>> limited -- of course you can
>> export the log to another program.
>> Ed, N5EI
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