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Re: [TenTec] Roofing Filters

To: ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net,Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Roofing Filters
From: Kalkwarf Robert <k7rlk@kalkwarf.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 13:34:50 -0700
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Hi Ken,
        Maybe it would be helpful if the "origin" of the term could be  
identified.

Bob W7WO



On May 31, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Ken Brown wrote:

> I have received quite a few responses to my request for a clear
> definition of the term "roofing filter". Most of the respondents  
> seem to
> think that they know exactly what a roofing filter is, yet they don't
> all agree exactly with each other. The best (in my opinion) and most
> thorough response was from Bill W4ZV, who also included some reference
> links.
>
> I got a chuckle from the opening sentence of one link, from Inrad: "
> "roofing filter" is the current buzzword in high-end radios.  "
>
> I agree with that, though there is no doubt that a better first IF
> filter can make a big improvement in receiver performance.
>
> The way the term is being used in some advertisements sort of  
> reminds me
> of  "Solid State", "Transistorized", and "Digital". And remember  
> "Color"
> TV antennas?
>
> Most everyone agrees that (lately) a roofing filter is the first
> bandpass filter after the first mixer in a superheterodyne receiver.
> (Once upon a time a roofing filter was a lowpass filter, not  
> necessarily
> in the IF of a receiver.) There is some consensus that a roofing  
> filter
> is not the narrowest or final filter (or filtering process in the case
> of a DSP receiver) in the IF. Perhaps the later, narrower filters are
> "ceiling filters." It seems that we have always had roofing  
> filters, we
> just didn't call them that until a few years ago.
>
> There is also an implication that a roofing filter must be a crystal
> filter with a fairly narrow bandwidth, on the order of  a few times  
> the
> bandwidth needed for the mode of operation. I have not yet heard  
> anyone
> refer to an LC BPF or IF transformer as a "roofing filter". Or perhaps
> the first filter after the mixer is always a roofing filter,  
> regardless
> of type, or bandwidth?
>
> Is the first IF transformer in my Hammarlund Super-Pro a roofing  
> filter?
>
> DE N6KB
>
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