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>Which Ten Tec rig does this crap refer to ?
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>From: "Roger Borowski" <K9RB@bellsouth.net>
>To: <TenTec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:22 AM
>Subject: [TenTec] This is War!
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>>Subject: This is War!
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>>Subject: This is War!
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>>This WAR is for REAL. More real than most Americans seem to know.
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>>To get out of a difficulty, one usually must understand it and go through
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>it.
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>>Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we
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>know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).
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>>The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are
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>very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who
>realize what losing really means.
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>>First, let's examine a few basics:
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>>1. When did the threat to us start?
>> Many will say September 11th, 2001.
>> The answer as far as the United States is concerned is 1979,
>> 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks
>> on us:
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>> â Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
>> â Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
>> â Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
>> â Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
>> â First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
>> â Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
>> â Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
>> â Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
>> â Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
>> â New York World Trade Center 2001;
>> â Pentagon 2001.
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>>(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist
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>attacks worldwide).
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>>2. Why were we attacked?
>> Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms.
>> The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter,
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>Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush.
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>>3. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no
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>provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors,
>Presidents Ford or Carter.
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>>4. Who were the attackers?
>> In each case, the attacks on the U.S. were carried out by Muslims.
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>The Muslim make up 25% if the Worlds population.
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>>5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?
>> Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that
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>the predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under
>the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no
>difference. You either went along with the administration or you were
>eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for
>political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests). (see
>http://www.Nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm ).
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>>Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as
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>the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard
>of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world
>focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his
>way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German,
>Christian or any others.
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>>Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the U.S., but
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>kill all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone
>else. The point here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no
>protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims
>there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim
>leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by their own
>pronouncements -- killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame the peaceful
>Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or die?
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>>6. So who are we at war with?
>> There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than
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>the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid
>verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you
>don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting.
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>>So with that background, now to the two major questions:
>>1. Can we lose this war?
>>2. What does losing really mean?
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>>If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions.
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>>We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the
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>major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the
>answer to the second question.
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>>What does losing mean?
>>It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means
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>hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business,
>like post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get.
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>>What losing really means is:
>>We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will
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>not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead,
>not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have
>produced an increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 2 1/2
>decades. The plan was clearly, for terrorist to attack us, until we were
>neutered and submissive to them. The plan has been in place since the late
>70's, when they realized we had weaknesses and bailed out of Viet Nam.
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>>If we lose, we would of course have no future support from any other
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>nations, for fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see, we
>are impotent and cannot help them anymore. The terrorist Muslims will then
>pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be
>increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't
>matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from
>Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told
>them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be
>done. Spain is finished. The next will probably be France. Our one hope on
>France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win,
>they are finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists
>without us. However, it may already be too late for France. France is
>already 30% Muslim and fading fast!
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>>If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will
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>all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us, if
>they were threatened by the Muslims.
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>>If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else?
>> The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are
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>completely committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be
>likewise committed to winning at any cost.
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>>Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple.
>>Until we all recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put
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>100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that
>100% effort to win.
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>>So, how can we lose the war? Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the
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>war by "imploding." That is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize
>the enemy and their purpose, and really digging in and lending full support
>to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we
>continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!
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>>Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life
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>and death seriousness of this situation: President Bush selects Norman
>Mineta as Secretary of Transportation. Although all of the terrorist
>attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age,
>Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that sound like we are
>taking this thing seriously? This is war! For the duration, we are going to
>have to give up some of the civil rights we have become accustomed to. We
>had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we
>will most certainly lose all of them permanently. And don't worry that it
>is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and
>immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added many more
>since then.
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>>Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him? No, I blame us
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>for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness, and
>all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean, lawful,
>honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head.
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>>Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the
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>Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us
>lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is
>because they just don't recognize what losing means.
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>>Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are
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>divided and weakening. It concerns our friends, and it does great damage to
>our cause. Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and
>media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies
>best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the
>treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military
>police. These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were
>throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting
>out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for
>disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.
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>>And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed
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>400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type
>enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their
>charred corpses through the streets of Iraq. And still more recently, the
>same type enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources
>internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners they held.
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>>Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days
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>have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some
>Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses
>through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.
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>>Can this be for real? The politicians and pundits have even talked of
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>impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete
>lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we
>are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous
>results of losing this war, nothing can.
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>>To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner
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>issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally
>oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other
>country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean
>that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means
>that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of the situation we are
>in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many
>years.
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>>Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That
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>translates into all non-Muslims -- not just in the United States, but
>throughout the world. We are the last bastion of defense. We have been
>criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge is valid in at
>least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good,
>powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who
>attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat
>anything bad in the world! We can't! If we don't recognize this, our
>nation as we know it will not survive, and no other free country in the
>World will survive if we are defeated.
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>>And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow
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>freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the
>press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any
>status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that
>contributes to the good of the world. This has been a long way of saying
>that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in the history
>books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the
>Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read. If we don't
>win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France
>in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim
>population of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the
>established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves,
>over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them
>and keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?
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>>Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some
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>external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically
>correct piece by politically correct piece.
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>>And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown,
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>worldwide, that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to
>themselves, once they are in power. They have universally shown that when
>they have taken over, they then start brutally killing each other over who
>will be the few who control the masses.
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>>Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the
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>"peaceful Muslims"?
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>>I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are
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>united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope the factions in our country
>will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and will unite to
>save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you
>can to preserve it. We must do this not only for ourselves, but for our
>children, grandchildren, our country and the world.
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>>Pass this on to help spread the word on the gravity of the situation we
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>are in and the realization of what will happen if we don't unite and
>understand what is really at stake. This is the most critical test of the
>United States in all of our lifetimes and as I see it, very few Americans
>are even remotely aware of what losing means, or even think we can lose. We
>definitely can and will if we don't stop worrying about what is politically
>correct and start doing what we must do to save ourselves and the world.
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