I can understand both points of view concerning this issue. TT wants to
operate with a certain amount of order and less confusion with the updating
process, and customers would like to know more about what is going on.
I think a step in the right direction was Scott's post announcing that the
2.0 firmware had been released to the BETA testers. IF we could be updated
occasionally about what is happening, it would be a great help. Toby
W4CAK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Henderson" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] 565 Orion v2.0 firmware released to beta testers
> I have never needed to be bound by a written contract in order to respect
> confidentiality. The lack of a specific NDA matters none. I agreed with
> Ten Tec I would not make public the content of discussions on the TTBUG
> reflector and nor would I distribute copies of beta firmware. That's good
> enough for them and that's good enough for me.
>
> Any Orion owner can apply to become a beta tester for the product's new
> operating code. If you're curious about what's new and you are willing to
> contribute, then ask Ten Tec if you can become a beta tester.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, 5B4AGN
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randy K7RAN" <k7randy@gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Cc: <wc1m@msn.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 565 Orion v2.0 firmware released to beta testers
>
>
> > Well, if there's no NDA, then there's no secret. I don't subscribe to
> > Dick's notion that vigorous reflector discussions necessarily provide
> > "distractions" for engineers. In fact, most engineers are familiar
> > with far more malevolent distractions (like those in the executive
> > suites with power who issue impossible fatwas) than anything
> > generated by a public affinity group. In answer to Dick's "you can
> > imagine the chaos" comment, the fact is that I cannot imagine the
> > chaos he suggests; these kinds of statements reflect more of
> > patriarchal propaganda than any empirical fact, which I will offer
> > here: America Online (and many other companies, for that matter)
> > routinely conducts public beta tests where literally millions of
> > people can opt in and participate in vigorous discussions, and the
> > "imagined chaos" does not automatically follow. I am certainly open
> > to a better defense of this exclusive process than what Dick Green
> > attempted to provide.
> >
> > Randy, K7RAN
> >
> >
> > On Aug 24, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Dick Green WC1M wrote:
> >
> > > There's no written NDA, but the beta testers have agreed to keep
> > > information
> > > about beta releases and related discussions private. This is
> > > necessary in
> > > order to provide an environment in which the testers and engineers
> > > can do
> > > their job efficiently with minimal distractions. It also allows for a
> > > certain level of experimentation with new features that may never
> > > see the
> > > light of day. You can imagine the chaos that would reign if every
> > > pre-release bug/feature became grist for the public mill.
> > > Discussions among
> > > the beta test group are vigorous enough as it is.
> > >
> > > The Orion beta test group is pretty large and includes very qualified
> > > participants with a wide range of operating interests and technical
> > > skills.
> > > IMHO, they've done an excellent job advocating for the interests of
> > > the
> > > Orion user community, and TT has done an excellent job responding
> > > to problem
> > > reports and suggestions. In fact, every issue discussed on the public
> > > reflectors has been the subject of in-depth discussions between the
> > > beta
> > > testers and engineers before public release of each firmware version.
> > >
> > > 73, Dick WC1M
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Don Rasmussen [mailto:wb8yqj@yahoo.com]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:59 AM
> > >> To: tentec@contesting.com
> > >> Subject: [TenTec] 565 Orion v2.0 firmware released to beta testers
> > >>
> > >> Any ver 1.x owners here to suggest the specific concerns that
> > >> v2.0 should address?
> > >>
> > >> I expect that receiver lockups should become a thing of the
> > >> past, whether the sweep is engaged or not.
> > >>
> > >> What are the other "must" fixes?
> > >>
> > >> Can anyone here using v2.0 report if any specific issue has
> > >> been corrected, or are early adopters bound by a
> > >> non-disclosure agreement for the beta test?
> > >>
> > >> -----------------------------------------------
> > >> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > >> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 565 Orion v2.0 firmware released to
> > >> beta testers
> > >>
> > >> Great news, Scott. I wish you few if any bugs.
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Scott K4VWK
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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