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Re: [TenTec] An(other) O2 request

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] An(other) O2 request
From: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>
Reply-to: Steve Baron - KB3MM <SteveBaron@StarLinX.com>,Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:52:13 -0000
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Yes Carl.

I sometimes think that people have no idea of USB's inner woringand do not
realize it is not  afree ride.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@arrl.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 19:04
Subject: Re: [TenTec] An(other) O2 request


> Making a new radio such as the Orion II not have an rs232 port but instead
> have an ethernet or USB port would make the radio incompatible with most
of
> the logging software currently available.  All the current logging
software
> available uses an rs232 serial port to communicate with the radio.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> Franklinton, NC
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Byron J. Watts" <bjw@byron.com>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] An(other) O2 request
>
>
> > i'm affraid i disagree, yes there would be drivers, but if you're
> > software engineering the entire radio in the first place it shouldn't be
> > THAT hard to do.  I came up with, what in my oppinion would be the
> > perfect radio the other day, i was going to keep the idea to myself but
> > i can't resist, i don't really expect tentec to actually do it, but it'd
> > be cool to see.
> >
> > this was in reply to something on e-ham, but i decided not to post it
> there:
> > the thread was about a higher degree of portability with just a radio
> > face panel so that one could operate from one's back porch or patio or
> > whatever:
> >
> > Along these lines, i like the remote head idea, i like the wifi idea..
> > but my question right now is why aren't the radio manufacturers getting
> > the heck out of the stone age? meaning: they're still using those awful
> > RS-232 serial ports for rig control.  we have a new standard, we call it
> > USB.  why can't they produce a rig that has USB to a computer interface,
> > they CAN'T be that hard to do as they're practically giving the stuff
> > away in digital cameras and such. then ethernet to the head, OR make a
> > totally wireless head unit, similar in shape perhaps to a sony PSP
> > (handheld gaming system for those of you who don't know-and it's not a
> > bad thing if you don't know) and perhaps a little larger. The head unit
> > could be the rig front panel, it could slide into place and charge the
> > batts on the front of the radio while you continue operating.. need to
> > leave for a few mintes, take the head unit with you to continue
> > listening.  jacks on the side of the unit would accomodate keys/mics and
> > headphones.  use lithium batts on the head unit for extended operating
> > time (i'm thinking 6 hours away from any power supply would be enough.)
> > include a wall wart charger to keep the head unit juiced up for long
> > contests and whatever.  a standard t 802.11g should carry full quality
> > voice AND all control signals simultaneously without a hicup am i right?
> >
> > an interface should be included on the head unit for control of antenna
> > tuners and amplifiers, the yaesu quadra system comes to mind, controled
> > by the rig.  link the amps, rotators, tuners and all that into the
> > rig/computer via usb ports.  then, on the head unit have 2 main screens,
> > or just one physical screen with two physical butons to change screen
> > 'modes'. the standard rig frequency display and such, as well as a
> > dedicated screen for a graphic representation of your antenna heading,
> > amp status and tuner status.  all power and SWR metering can be done
> > remotely as well.
> >  why not a keyboard port for doing digital text modes as well? i mean,
> > the radio's software defined anyway, tacking on a piece of software to
> > do PSK, RTTY and perhaps a multitude of other text modes might be good
> too.
> >
> > cheap? no, but to me nothing is cheap, so i decided to go on solely
> > ideas instead of cost.  also, call it a rice box if you like, it's
> > definately combining "consumer level" gear with radio gear.
> >
> > 73 all de KC0NPF
> >
> >
> > ------------------
> > Martin, AA6E wrote:
> >
> > >I think USB is problematic for ham gear unless it is limited to a
> > >strict serial port emulation.  That's because anything else probably
> > >requires special I/O drivers to be loaded in your computer.  The
> > >software then rapidly becomes Windows-specific, which is bad for us
> > >Linux and Mac users.
> > >
> > >I use a 4-port USA49WLC USB to serial device from Keyspan to
> > >communicate with all my ham gear.  It comes out at ~ $35 per port.
> > >The neat thing is that I can then talk to all my gear over one USB
> > >cable, simplifying the wiring layout.  And it works with Linux, too.
> > >
> > >I agree that Ethernet is appealing.  You'd have to add menu selections
> > >for IP addressing, etc.  Any new communication channel is going to
> > >require a fair amount of engineering to make it work .  I'd be
> > >surprised to see it in the O II.
> > >
> > >73 Martin AA6E
> > >
> > >
> > >
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