Ken, this was my thinking as well.
One simple thing is that the 850 keyer speed control seems to only take
a tiny bit of adjustment to move several WPM in speed. I've also found
myself adding an extra dit here and there. It is still what I
understand Mode B to be, but it is different from the Orion in Mode B
(which in 1.372 is displayed as Mode A).
A number on the list have mentioned the IdiomPress Logikey K-3. Looks
like another one of Bob's products may find its way into the shack.
Gary W7TEA
On Apr 3, 2005, at 12:38 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>
>> Gary:
>> I am sure that any keyer would work with the Orion including your old
>> Heathkit keyer. The rig has nothing to do with your "struggle".
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
> Gary wrote:
>
>>> For years I used an old Heathkit keyer but switched over to the keyer
>>> in the Orion last fall. Now the 850 keyer is a struggle to get right.
>>>
> Hi Steve and all,
>
> I think what Gary is observing is that every keyer seems to be a bit
> different, and once you get used to one, having used it for a long
> while, it is difficult to switch to another keyer. I think Gary
> realizes
> that just about any keyer can be hooked up to the Orion or the TS-850
> and be made to work. The problem is not whether the keyer "works" but
> rather whether the operator can "work the keyer" proficiently. Once you
> get used to one keyer it can be hard to switch to another.
>
> I have noticed difficulty switching between the Omni VI internal keyer
> and the Logikey K-3. I have them both set to mode B, but they do not
> work exactly identically. There seems to be some differences in the
> timing of the "window of opportunity" for adding trailing dits or
> inserting dits. The difference in operation is very difficult to
> analyze, because as soon as you start focusing on it, the problem seems
> to either go away or change. This is probably due to minor changes in
> timing of the operator's actuation of the paddles.
>
> Does anyone know if there is an "official" definition of exactly what
> mode A and mode B iambic keying are? Are there any specific parameters
> stated by any keyer manufacturer as to the timing of the paddle inputs
> versus the keyer outputs? I have never seen any such specifications,
> and
> I suspect that minor differences between brands is what gives some
> people trouble switching from one keyer to another. I find it
> interesting that it seems the transition from one model to another can
> seem smooth and not even noticable to the operator, and then after
> becoming accustomed to the second keyer, switching back to the first
> one
> can be very difficult. What is it that makes it easy to adjust in one
> direction and difficult in the other?
>
> To answer your question Gary: I like the Idiom Press Logikeyer K-3
> best.
>
> 73 DE N6KB
>
>
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