I think TenTec could easily get $4,999 for the Orion if they would add a
color screen, soup up the processor, make the bandscope at least as good as
the PRO and fix the firmware. You would then see those crowds flock around
the TT display and the Orion would be the biggest hit since the IC-706.
Personally I don't care if it requires a new model number like Orion II. Of
course it would be better if the Orion could be retrofitted like the Omni
VI, option 1, 2 3 etc. I'm saving up the money for whenever this happens.
Oh......Speaking of firmware bugs. You guys having seen anything until you
try the Flex-Radio. I've spent a great deal of time playing with one here.
It's got some great potential but it's a long way from being practical as
your only ham rig. If someone would take the receiver concept and package it
with a built in CPU, Hard drive, sound card etc. all in one box it would be
awesome. The simple receiver in that radio is something everyone should
hear. The audio quality is simply astounding and the selectivity something
that leaves one with a dropped jaw. For instance, I set the bandwidth to
100hz, tuned in a weak QRP station at S3, fired up my Omni VI at 60db over
S9 just 110hz away and noticed no degradation in reception. This is
impossible! Nothing has ever come close to sounding as quiet, pure and clean
on cw as this thing. The problems mostly involve control software stability
and cw keying. Both need a lot of work. Buying a Flex is really joining a
think tank instead of buying a "plug and play" rig. You become part of a
development team along with a great bunch of guys. The openness and
willingness to share thoughts and ideas between he manufacture and the buyer
have never been equaled and I think eventually they will have a great
product.
Steve Ellington
N4LQ@iglou.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT (Orion) Future improvements!!!
This is my opinion only!
I think it's becoming obvious that what the ham radio user community wants
in a radio has changed to more 'glitz' that actual operational
performance. Ten Tec probably designed the Orion with customer loyalty in
mind, the 'IY' manufacturers designed their latest rig's with the
customer's wallet in mind. (Acknowledging the 'IY' manufacterers current
radios technical performance IS quite good.) The Orion is just about as
perfect 'hardware design' as one could ask from amateur equipment. The
ONLY snaffu in the Orion design is possible the added stages of
amplification on the last two narrow roofing filter positions, done with
their user community in mind. The selectable roofing filters, which help
provide the very best receiver performance available kinda caught the
competition grasping for some way to use the term 'roofing filter'. Ten
Tec again, with the user community (cost to the user) in mind, used a
non-color display. The concept of a near-perfect hardware design and
firmware downloadable updates should have been a 'killer' system for the
ham community IF the ham community was still technical-orionted.
Two major problems; 1) The very old addage "One aw-s**t will kill a
thousand 'Atta-Boys'!" remains true today. While the Orion is an extremely
excellent hardware design, Ten Tec kinda dropped the ball with the Orion's
firmware; 2) probably 95% of today's ham community think a color screen
(so to speak) is much more important than actual radio performance under
extreme operating conditions.
What I saw yesterday at the Orlando hamfest kinda brings home the point
about today's hams. During my walk around at that hamfest what I saw was
shocking to me.
First walk through approximate number of ham visitors:
Yaesu booth: 25 to 30 visitors at the booth.
Icom booth: 30 to 40 visitors at the booth.
Elecraft booth: 10 to 15 visitior at the booth.
FlexRadio booth: 8 to 10 visitors at the booth.
Ten Tec booth: Only person present was the sales guy.
Two hours later:
Yaesu booth: 20-30 visitors
Icom booth: 20-30 visitors
Elcraft booth: 8-10 visitors
FlexRadio booth: 5-10 visitors
Ten Tec booth: Myself and the TT sales guy.
My immediate impression was the non-technical ham of today probably ranks
pretty color screens over pure absolute technical performance. I think
even if Ten Tec had a flawless firmware package in the Orion today, the
'average' ham would prefer showing his friends the 'pretty color screen'
and boast about how much it cost instead of proudly boasting about the
technical excellence of their Orion.
In my opinion, the "Guys @ TT" had the wisdom to produce the best hardware
design offered to the ham community on their first try, and I personally
do not see the need for "Hardware" improvements via an Orion Pro II, or
what ever. Of course, advancement in technology would require such, in the
future.
Tom - W4BQF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Davis" <nn6ee@yahoo.com>
To: "Ten-Tec List" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 1:51 PM
Subject: [TenTec] TT (Orion) Future improvements!!!
Gentlemen,
In the future I hope that the Guys @ TT have the
wisdom to offer "Hardware" improvements (when
available) instead of offering a entirely new version
of our Rig. Look what manufacturers like Icom did to
us when they brought out the IC-756, then the PRO,
then the PRO 2, then the PRO 3!!! All similar rigs
but enough differences to preclude any chance of
up-grading any of them by their owners which I think
is an insult to all of us who ARE NOT independently
wealthy or have a psycotic need to keep up with the
"JONESES!!!" $3400.00 is too big a chunk of change to
have to part with every time TT brings out a better
rig?
The "ORION" is a stellar rig, no doubt about it, BUT
still the hardware should be made avaialble when the
time comes and it WILL!!!
Any thoughts???
Jim/nn6ee
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