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Re: [TenTec] Cheap Ferrites (was Orion reset)

Subject: Re: [TenTec] Cheap Ferrites (was Orion reset)
From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx@swva.net>
Reply-to: k2xx@swva.net, tentec@contesting.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:19:41 -0500
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I also bought these split beads from the eBay vendor. Thanks to Alan, I read the useful and informative tutorial provided by K0BG and decided to compare the Ebay ferrites with some others that I had in the shack using the technique described by him. However, I used an MFJ-269 and a clip lead for my wire. The wire was probably about #20 and the 269 allowed me to go higher in frequency before I exceeded the maximum impedance. The data are shown below:

Ferrite ID Freq.(MHz) Resistance Reactance

Ebay 2.0 0 40
EbayX2 " 0 96 EbayX3 " 0 131
Fair-Rite (1/2") " 47 221
Fair-Rite (1/4") " 16 146
Gray (R/S?)(1/2") " 32 232
Clip lead w/no ferrite " 0 4


I then measured the EbayX3 and the Fair-Rite (1/2") vs frequency up to about 11.5 Mhz. These are the data:

Freq. (MHz) EbayX3 Fair-Rite

R X R X
2.0 0 131 53 238
3.0 0 205 96 339 4.0 0 287 149 436
6.0 16 477* 267 627 8.0 58 712 * 438 833
10.0 124,141* 978,1032* 680 1060 11.46 267* 1356* 923 1178


In terms of reactance, it looks like the Ebay ferrites become roughly comparable to the Fair-Rites at about 8 MHz. However, the resistance is much lower. The Ebay units seem to be increasing in reactance faster as the frequency exceeds 10 MHz. Since the Fair-Rite units are about twice the length and five times the mass of the Ebays, it makes sense that you would need more of them to get an equivalent effect. The bottom line seems to be that the Ebay ferrites should be useful above 7 or 8 MHz. (BTW, the asterisked data were obtained after disassembly and reassembly of the three Ebay pieces after making an initial set of measurements. The reproducibility looks to be about plus/minus 10%.)

I was particularly interested in how they worked because I generally use an end fed random wire when I operate portable. RF into the laptop can be troublesome to say the least. I was hoping these might be an easy, cheap answer. They still might be useful at the higher frequencies.

73, Joe
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