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[TenTec] Re: TenTec Digest, Vol 23, Issue 4

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Subject: [TenTec] Re: TenTec Digest, Vol 23, Issue 4
From: "Bob & Patricia Stevens" <bobsw4@cox.net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:19:11 -0600
List-post: <mailto:tentec@contesting.com>
I want the 1.8 filter - If it works in the Corsair II. tnx Bob Stevens,
K9ING 432-352-5289 or bobsw4@cox.net give me info on where to send $
including shipping. Bob
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>    1. Re: Geihl chip (Michael Brown)
>    2. Re: Geihl chip (Phil Chambley, Sr.)
>    3. Re: N4PY Software Version 2.19 Released (Martin Kratoska)
>    4. B&W low pass filter rating (tuscola)
>    5. Re: B&W low pass filter rating (Stuart Rohre)
>    6. Re: B&W low pass filter rating (HBW0MXY@aol.com)
>    7. Re: N4PY Software Version 2.19 Released (Bill Rowlett)
>    8. Re: Geihl chip (Van Kuykendall)
>    9. FS: filters (Gene A. Williamson)
>   10. Re: N4PY Software Version 2.19 Released (Jim Lowman)
>   11. RE: B&W low pass filter rating (K. Indart)
>   12. Re: B&W low pass filter rating (Phil Chambley, Sr.)
>   13. Re: B&W low pass filter rating (Martin Ewing)
>   14. Re: B&W low pass filter rating (Tommy)
>   15. Re: B&W low pass filter rating (Phil Chambley, Sr.)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 13:01:41 -0800 (PST)
> From: Michael Brown <k9mi@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Geihl chip
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <20041101210141.44477.qmail@web80011.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I don't know the whole story, but I believe it was
> created by Jack Geihl, WB8BFS.
>
> Mike - K9MI
>
>
> --- Mark Geihl <mgeihl@detlakes.k12.mn.us> wrote:
>
> > My name is mark geihl....since geihl is an unusual
> > name...I am very curious
> > how this chip got its name....
> >
> > Mark Geihl
> > _______________________________________________
> > TenTec mailing list
> > TenTec@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:05:46 -0500
> From: "Phil Chambley, Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Geihl chip
> To: <k9mi@sbcglobal.net>, <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <031f01c4c056$8f0b2810$0300a8c0@flattax>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Jack spells his name Giehl.
>
> VFO Stabilizers and PEP adapters for wattmeters...Check out
> http://home.comcast.net/~k4dpk
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Brown" <k9mi@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Geihl chip
>
>
> > I don't know the whole story, but I believe it was
> > created by Jack Geihl, WB8BFS.
> >
> > Mike - K9MI
> >
> >
> > --- Mark Geihl <mgeihl@detlakes.k12.mn.us> wrote:
> >
> > > My name is mark geihl....since geihl is an unusual
> > > name...I am very curious
> > > how this chip got its name....
> > >
> > > Mark Geihl
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > TenTec mailing list
> > > TenTec@contesting.com
> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> > >
> >
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:59:20 +0100
> From: Martin Kratoska <marcom@centrum.cz>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] N4PY Software Version 2.19 Released
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4186BFC8.6010505@centrum.cz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Carl Moreschi napsal(a):
>
> >I don't have any immediate plans for Yaesu but things could change.
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Carl Moreschi N4PY
> >Franklinton, NC
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <W4ABW@aol.com>
> >To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:28 AM
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] N4PY Software Version 2.19 Released
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Carl, I use all Yaesu here. Will you eventually have software for the
> >>
> >>
> >1000-MP
> >
> >
> >>or maybe the new 9000 ?
> >>
> >>Tnx
> >>Al
> >>W4ABW
> >>_______________________________________________
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> >>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> >>
> >>
> >Keep such commercial ads away, please - or is it a commercial server of
Carl Moreschi's software?
> >
> >
> 73,
> Martin, OK1RR
>
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:05:50 -0500
> From: "tuscola" <tuscola@tds.net>
> Subject: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> To: <TenTec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <000a01c4c067$5567b180$c0401545@ts940>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi, since Scott brought up his request for a low pass filter and different
models are being brought up,  I thought that someone might be able to help
me with the rating on a B&W low pass filter with a model #425,  S.N. 101,
picked this up at Dayton a summer or so ago and there is no rating on it.
> Tnx  jim heath w8ngo
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 17:44:33 -0600
> From: "Stuart Rohre" <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <003c01c4c06c$bd002200$4e100a0a@rohredt2000>
>
> If this is the one with UHF connectors on it, (or type N) it is rated for
1
> KW.
> Stuart
> K5KVH
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:16:54 EST
> From: HBW0MXY@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <7e.5c83faa5.2eb81de6@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Jim:
>
> I have a Barker & Williamson model # 425 low pass filter.  The instruction
> sheet for it shows the following:
>
> Frequency range :  1.5 to 30 MHz
> Power rating :  1 KW of RF power
>
> There is no information on the harmonic and spurious frequency supression
> specifications of the filter.
>
> 73,             Hal                       W0MXY
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:21:15 +0000
> From: "Bill Rowlett" <kc4atu@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] N4PY Software Version 2.19 Released
> To: admin@ok1rr.com, tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <BAY14-F79oD6XMLDthO0003dbe1@hotmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> Martin,
>
> Carl's software is on topic here as it is for ten-Tec and orther rigs too.
A
> question was asked and the answer given. This was not a commercial ad.
>
> Set your filter for Carl's post and you will not be bothered in the
future.
>
> 73,  Bill  kc4atu
> QRP, doing more with less
> FM19ga
>
>
>
> >From: Martin Kratoska <marcom@centrum.cz>
> >Reply-To: admin@ok1rr.com, tentec@contesting.com
> >To: tentec@contesting.com
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] N4PY Software Version 2.19 Released
> >Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:59:20 +0100
> >
> >Carl Moreschi napsal(a):
> >
> >>I don't have any immediate plans for Yaesu but things could change.
> >>
> >>73,
> >>
> >>Carl Moreschi N4PY
> >>Franklinton, NC
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: <W4ABW@aol.com>
> >>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >>Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:28 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [TenTec] N4PY Software Version 2.19 Released
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Carl, I use all Yaesu here. Will you eventually have software for the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>1000-MP
> >>
> >>
> >>>or maybe the new 9000 ?
> >>>
> >>>Tnx
> >>>Al
> >>>W4ABW
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>TenTec mailing list
> >>>TenTec@contesting.com
> >>>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Keep such commercial ads away, please - or is it a commercial server of
> >>Carl Moreschi's software?
> >>
> >>
> >73,
> >Martin, OK1RR
> >
> >
> >
> >>_______________________________________________
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:46:27 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
> From: "Van Kuykendall" <n5hty@centurytel.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Geihl chip
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <4186D8E3.000008.00704@VANKUYKENDALL>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Mark,
> I can tell you. It came from Jack Geihl (WB8BFS) the maker of the chip.
> Hope this helps.
> Tnx,
> Van N5HTY
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Mark Geihl
> Date: 11/01/04 14:57:02
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] Geihl chip
>
> My name is mark geihl....since geihl is an unusual name...I am very
curious
> how this chip got its name....
>
> Mark Geihl
> _______________________________________________
> TenTec mailing list
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:49:40 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Gene A. Williamson" <genewill@ordata.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] FS: filters
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID:
> <11414.207.189.187.10.1099356580.squirrel@apache.willamette.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
>    For Sale: 6MHz filters for Corsair II, etc. Ten-Tec 1.8kHz and 500Hz,
> $60 each, shipped in CONUS; Inrad 250Hz, $75, shipped in CONUS.
>
> 73 "YW" Gene, N7YW
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:51:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jim Lowman <jmlowman@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] N4PY Software Version 2.19 Released
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <20041102005109.92137.qmail@web80407.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Before this escalates...
>
> Carl posts the availability of new versions of his
> software with my permission.
>
> Future comments or complaints should be directed to
> me, and not to the entire list.
>
> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
> List Administrator
> jmlowman@sbcglobal.net
>
> --- Bill Rowlett <kc4atu@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Martin,
> >
> > Carl's software is on topic here as it is for
> > ten-Tec and orther rigs too. A
> > question was asked and the answer given. This was
> > not a commercial ad.
> >
> > Set your filter for Carl's post and you will not be
> > bothered in the future.
> >
> > 73,  Bill  kc4atu
> > QRP, doing more with less
> > FM19ga
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Martin Kratoska <marcom@centrum.cz>
> > >Reply-To: admin@ok1rr.com, tentec@contesting.com
> > >To: tentec@contesting.com
> > >Subject: Re: [TenTec] N4PY Software Version 2.19
> > Released
> > >Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:59:20 +0100
> > >
> > >Carl Moreschi napsal(a):
> > >
> > >>I don't have any immediate plans for Yaesu but
> > things could change.
> > >>
> > >>73,
> > >>
> > >>Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > >>Franklinton, NC
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: <W4ABW@aol.com>
> > >>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > >>Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:28 AM
> > >>Subject: Re: [TenTec] N4PY Software Version 2.19
> > Released
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Carl, I use all Yaesu here. Will you eventually
> > have software for the
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>1000-MP
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>or maybe the new 9000 ?
> > >>>
> > >>>Tnx
> > >>>Al
> > >>>W4ABW
> > >>>_______________________________________________
> > >>>TenTec mailing list
> > >>>TenTec@contesting.com
> >
> >>>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>Keep such commercial ads away, please - or is it a
> > commercial server of
> > >>Carl Moreschi's software?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >73,
> > >Martin, OK1RR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>_______________________________________________
> > >>TenTec mailing list
> > >>TenTec@contesting.com
> >
> >>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 20:24:56 -0500
> From: "K. Indart" <kitdart@ntelos.net>
> Subject: RE: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <KEEMIMDAJPJIHNNJELMAEELIDMAA.kitdart@ntelos.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Jim,
> Check the Barker & Williamson webpage for that info.
>
> 73,Ken  WA4RPH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of tuscola
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:06 PM
> To: TenTec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
>
> Hi, since Scott brought up his request for a low pass filter and different
> models are being brought up,  I thought that someone might be able to help
> me with the rating on a B&W low pass filter with a model #425,  S.N. 101,
> picked this up at Dayton a summer or so ago and there is no rating on it.
> Tnx  jim heath w8ngo
> _______________________________________________
> TenTec mailing list
> TenTec@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 20:35:44 -0500
> From: "Phil Chambley, Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <036701c4c07c$45732bf0$0300a8c0@flattax>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Jim...
> Cutoff freq   34 mhz
> Max atten freq   52 Mhz
> Min atten (dB)   70
> Impedance  50 ohms
> Power rating   1500 watts
>
> 73
> Phil Chambley (friend of Ed MacKenzie)
> K4DPK
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "tuscola" <tuscola@tds.net>
> To: <TenTec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:05 PM
> Subject: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
>
>
> Hi, since Scott brought up his request for a low pass filter and different
> models are being brought up,  I thought that someone might be able to help
> me with the rating on a B&W low pass filter with a model #425,  S.N. 101,
> picked this up at Dayton a summer or so ago and there is no rating on it.
> Tnx  jim heath w8ngo
> _______________________________________________
> TenTec mailing list
> TenTec@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 17:50:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: Martin Ewing <martin@aa6e.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <20041102015058.56932.qmail@web81409.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> For what it's worth (OT), I expect the power ratings
> (and frequency response, too) are based on 1:1 VSWR /
> 50 ohms. It would be useful to know what they can do
> with say 2:1 VSWR.  I.e., you want some headroom in
> the current and voltage dimensions.
>
> 73, Martin, AA6E
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 21:24:19 -0500
> From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <001801c4c083$0ef40b60$6501a8c0@w4bqf3>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Phil,
>
> Not nit-picking here, but why would the specs leave out insertion
> loss ? One of the most important specs for anything after your final
> RF output device. Also interesting that very few manufacturers
> include both insertion loss and port to port isolation for coax
> switches. Gotta be a good (hidden) reason for doing that ?
>
> Tom - W4BQF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Chambley, Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
>
>
> > Jim...
> > Cutoff freq   34 mhz
> > Max atten freq   52 Mhz
> > Min atten (dB)   70
> > Impedance  50 ohms
> > Power rating   1500 watts
> >
> > 73
> > Phil Chambley (friend of Ed MacKenzie)
> > K4DPK
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tuscola" <tuscola@tds.net>
> > To: <TenTec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:05 PM
> > Subject: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> >
> >
> > Hi, since Scott brought up his request for a low pass filter and
> different
> > models are being brought up,  I thought that someone might be able
> to help
> > me with the rating on a B&W low pass filter with a model #425,
> S.N. 101,
> > picked this up at Dayton a summer or so ago and there is no rating
> on it.
> > Tnx  jim heath w8ngo
> > _______________________________________________
> > TenTec mailing list
> > TenTec@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TenTec mailing list
> > TenTec@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 21:31:32 -0500
> From: "Phil Chambley, Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <038501c4c084$11357a70$0300a8c0@flattax>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Dunno Tom...
>
> Got that info from a B&W Catalog I found in a drawer.  Remember too, those
> power ratings are for AM.
>
> I guess with 80% efficient Class C, you can afford a little insertion
loss.
> :)
>
> Phil
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
>
>
> > Phil,
> >
> > Not nit-picking here, but why would the specs leave out insertion
> > loss ? One of the most important specs for anything after your final
> > RF output device. Also interesting that very few manufacturers
> > include both insertion loss and port to port isolation for coax
> > switches. Gotta be a good (hidden) reason for doing that ?
> >
> > Tom - W4BQF
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phil Chambley, Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
> > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> >
> >
> > > Jim...
> > > Cutoff freq   34 mhz
> > > Max atten freq   52 Mhz
> > > Min atten (dB)   70
> > > Impedance  50 ohms
> > > Power rating   1500 watts
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Phil Chambley (friend of Ed MacKenzie)
> > > K4DPK
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "tuscola" <tuscola@tds.net>
> > > To: <TenTec@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:05 PM
> > > Subject: [TenTec] B&W low pass filter rating
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, since Scott brought up his request for a low pass filter and
> > different
> > > models are being brought up,  I thought that someone might be able
> > to help
> > > me with the rating on a B&W low pass filter with a model #425,
> > S.N. 101,
> > > picked this up at Dayton a summer or so ago and there is no rating
> > on it.
> > > Tnx  jim heath w8ngo
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