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Subject: Re: [TenTec] open source
From: "n4lq" <n4lq@iglou.com>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:52:12 -0400
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Just curious and I don't know much about reverse engineering but just 
suppose someone were able to reverse engineer the Jupiter or Orion and 
come up with the necessary code, Would there be legal grounds for TenTec 
to sue?
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales" <sales@tentec.com>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:16:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [TenTec] open source

> At 04:12 PM 9/23/04 -0700, you wrote:
> >  I think TT has a moral
> >obligation to either make it all happen or let someone else have a
> crack at
> >it.  There's no shame in this -- TT has not failed, rather they have
> led the
> >way. They fail only if they disappoint -- and I for one would be very
> >disappointed if they made a radio, wouldn't fix it and allowed no-one
> else
> >to fix it either.  Hopefully they're much smarter than to let that
> happen.
> 
> What is not understood about this discussion is that the DSP code takes
> a serious engineering effort to create and cannot be simply given away
> for anyone (including companies that compete with us) to use.  We have
> lots of competition both in the amateur radio and non-amateur radio
> arenas; to simply give away our intellectual property would let others
> use our engineering effort to their advantage.  Perhaps years from now,
> when current equipment is discontinued the possibility of making it
> available for use and experimentation could be discussed - but in the
> short term, there is no possibility of this happening.
> 
> Leaving aside the entire discussion of what a project it would be to
> try
> to provide tech support for people troubleshooting their own version of
> our code to make their radio do something specific and/or modify the
> existing radio.
> 
> We do custom engineering work all the time.  There are customized
> versions of DSP radios that we sell as off-the-shelf items out in
> circulation
> right now - and there was a significant cost incurred for engineering
> time
> to create these items.   The eventual owners of these custom radios
> paid a hefty price to use our engineering time to modify our
> intellectual
> property to get exactly what they wanted.
> 
> Slightly different topic:
> I've been following the discussion about the recent lack of Jupiter
> updates
> with a bit of trepidation.
> 
> We've taken a lot of heat over "look how many firmware updates
> there have been for this rig..." and the converse is "After three
> years,
> there haven't been recent updates coming for this rig..." - that's hard
> to
> win either way.  Yes, updates for the Orion will continue until some
> future date.  No, we haven't done any updates for the Jupiter since
> fall of '03 after three years of issuing them.  That doesn't mean we
> won't do them in future, however.
> 
> Scott Robbins W4PA
> Amateur Radio Product Manager, Ten-Tec, Inc.
> 
> 
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