Yes sir. I had a K3 Super Duper CMOS here for some time. I sold it because I
didn't like the mode B emulation. Other than that, it's ok. Listening to the
weight vs. "keying compensation" adjustment in another receiver, they seem
to do exactly the same thing which is to increase the length of the
characters. The only difference is that the "keying compensation" doesn't
affect the K3's racus sidetone.
Now I have a question about one of your statements.
"Keying compensation allows the make to be delayed so that the start of the
> rig's
> keying envelope matches the keyer. The weight control is different."
How does the rig know it's "make" is being delayed by a keyer?
Anyway, for some rigs, especially ICOMS, when used in QSK mode, extra weight
is needed. When I use my MFJ 407 with the PROII in QSK mode, I simply crank
up the weight control about 30%. In Semi-bkin mode, I turn it back to
normal. The sidetone in the PROII reflects this change and sounds rather
heavy. When using the K3 keyer, you get the same exact effect when
increasing either the "weight" or "compensation". If you can stand to listen
to the sick duck sidetone of the K3, the weight of the sidetone is preserved
by increasing the "compensation" instead of the "weight". So basically the
"compensation" adjustment is a gimmick.
Most TenTec rigs do not seem to require additional weight but las Tom
mentioned, the Omni 6+ does need a little help over about 45 WPM. The Orion
seems to be rather unpredictable in this reguard. Mine was choppy at first
then I upgraded the software and it sounded much better but my QSK became
slow. Maybe there's a relation!
Steve N4LQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Watters" <ve1bn@eastlink.ca>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] omni v short dits
> Whatever, Steve. Please don't take me for a fool. Guess I am just a
lucky
> fellow
> with a CMOS Superkeyer 3 which can compensate keying in various rigs.
Ever
> try one? Was a cmcl op, used a bug for 40 years from early ham days in
> 1946
> until I sold my little Zephyr 5 years ago. I've used the CMOS for the past
> 9.
>
> Guess I'm a true blue CW op too!! I know you don't tighten the dits up
> on a bug
> as close as suggested.
>
> Keying compensation allows the make to be delayed so that the start of the
> rig's
> keying envelope matches the keyer. The weight control is different. It
> shortens
> the spacing of characters, sort of runs them together if too much weight
is
> set. Big
> difference. These are heard in the Ten-Tec sidetones.
>
> Was just suggesting a possible solution, but forget it OM, you apparently
> already
> have the answers....
>
> By the way, no offence taken or meant.
>
> 73 - Don VE1BN@eastlink.com
>
> Gosh. just seems to do the job. ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq@iglou.com>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] omni v short dits
>
>
> > Keying compensation? Delay? Sounds like a line from the K3 manual. I
> suppose
> > if he had a keyer he could crank up the weight but I'm not sure the
ole
> > boy owns one. He's a true, blue cw op! Bug only! BTW: That "keying
> > compensation" is just another weight control. The only difference in
that
> > and a regular weight control on a Curtis keyer is the fact that it
doesn't
> > affect the sidetone (which few people use anyway).
> > Steve N4LQ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don Watters" <ve1bn@eastlink.ca>
> > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 6:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] omni v short dits
> >
> >
> > > Hi Steve -
> > >
> > > Any way he can set the keying compensation? I found my Paragon II
> needed
> > > about 15 mS delay to give a smooth keying characteristic. No shortened
> > makes
> > > or clicks. Worth a try if he can set it up.
> > >
> > > 73 - Don, VE1BN@eastlink.ca
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq@iglou.com>
> > > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 6:30 PM
> > > Subject: [TenTec] omni v short dits
> > >
> > >
> > > A friend of mine has an Omni V and he is trying to use a bug however
the
> > > dits are being chopped so badly that he can't use it. I've never had a
> > > TenTec rig that chopped dits like this one. I've hear him on the air
and
> > > even with his dit weight screwed to almost touching, he sounds
horrible.
> > > It's like something is wrong in the keying circuit. Has anyone
> experienced
> > > this?
> > >
> > > Steve N4LQ
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