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Today's Topics:
1. Omni VI+ TX (Paul DeWitte K9OT)
2. 20 Meter Ten Tec User's Net - March 28, 2004 (Ronnie Zoerb)
3. Re: BPL Update (Stuart Rohre)
4. Re: BPL Update (Stuart Rohre)
5. 280 power supply chassis- FREE (Edward Crawford)
6. Re: OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
(Ken Brown)
7. Re: OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
(Alfred Lorona)
8. RE: OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
(Rick Westerman)
9. Corsair II warble (Bob Towers)
10. Re: OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
11. RE: OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
(James Duffer)
12. Re: Corsair II warble (Tommy)
13. Re: Corsair II warble (Bob Towers)
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:12:40 -0600
From: "Paul DeWitte K9OT" <k9ot@mhtc.net>
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Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI+ TX
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I receieved an email from a person that was in the 3B9C 160m pileup last
night the same time that I was.
The 3B9C was listening 5 up (and that was where I was transmitting). He said
that he heard me 5 up and could also hear me on the 3B9C TX freq.
Has anyone else had this problem of TX on 2 freq at the same time? I would
doubt that his rig would be that wide on RCV that that would be the problem.
Any comments? Sure dont want to clutter up the band. Especially not knowing
that I am doing it.
Thanks 73 Paul K9OT
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:22:53 -0700
From: "Ronnie Zoerb" <r.zoerb@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Ten Tec Reflector" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: [TenTec] 20 Meter Ten Tec User's Net - March 28, 2004
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In the midst of the DX contest, 13 check-ins were heard. Band conditions
appeared to be pretty good with major contest activity. Thanks to all who
took the time to find us and to Dudley (WA5QPZ) for his help with the net.
Model and number of Ten Tec rigs noted:
Jupiter = 3
Omni VI+ = 3
Orion = 2
Pegasus = 2
Corsair = 1
Delta 580 = 1
Omni V.9 = 1
SPC = TX, TN, MO, MI, CT, TX, NC, IA, OH, MA, NC, BC and CO.
If anyone tried and was unable to check in, please let me know.
KI0II@ARRL.NET
73 es everyone have a good week.
Ron KI0II
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:23:44 -0600
From: "Stuart Rohre" <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>
To: "A. Sewell" <n5na@arrl.net>, <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] BPL Update
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It came over one the mailing lists. Check out the Ten Tec mailing list
archives, or maybe it was Glowbugs. Within past two weeks on the
reflectors.
There is extensive info on the Manassas VA trial on their web page for the
local club there.
ARRL.org also has BPL links.
-Stuart
K5KVH
since I get hundreds of reflector messages, I do not keep all nor even note
sometimes which one something comes in on.
Sorry about that.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:26:05 -0600
From: "Stuart Rohre" <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>
To: <k4rv@mindspring.com>, <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] BPL Update
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Message: 4
Tom
As others noted, UHF channels are being taken up with HD TV, as it requires
more channel bandwidth for that mode.
Also, other TV channels in traditional bands are to be "refarmed" when HDTV
is the only allowed transmissions.
Public Safety agencies were one of those asking for more VHF space.
73,
Stuart
K5KVH
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:17:47 -0500
From: "Edward Crawford" <w4wvw@msn.com>
To: "tentec" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: [TenTec] 280 power supply chassis- FREE
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I have an empty chassis for a 280 power supply for the cost of postage =
if anyone needs it. Tired of moving it out of the way every time I get =
something off the closet shelf. This is the bottom chassis with the =
front and rear panels only, no top cover. Pretty good shape, couple very =
light small scratches on the front. The main defect is the bottom is =
slightly dented where the transformer sits, and this dent has very =
slightly distorted the very bottom of the front panel. This could all be =
massaged out if someone took care to not make it look worse. This would =
be a good candidate if someone has a 280 that needs a refurb, and the =
price is right.
Let me know if you're interested.
73. Ed/w4wvw
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I was QRT for around 18 years and became active again around 4 years ago.
When I was active before, transmitters-receivers/transceivers were called
rigs. When I came back they all had become "radios." I kind of went with
it with some perplexity but I've decided to ask what happened because a guy
wrote an article in CQ this month, telling his tale of being QRT for around
45 years and coming back, and he asked the same thing in his article.
What's this "Radio" jazz all about? Where did that come from? A radio is
this consumer electronics appliance folks use to swl, hear weather alerts,
broadcast transmissions, police, fire etc. A T4 isn't a radio. Neither is
a KWM2, or an Orion or anything else in a shack that delivers and receives
RF. They're rigs. We're hams. We have rigs. We don't need no stinkin'
radios. Next, the shack will be called the radio room.
Rob Atkinson
K5UJ
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:38:50 -1000
From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@verizon.net>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
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We're hams. We have rigs. We don't need no stinkin' radios. Next,
the shack will be called the radio room.
Hi Rob,
What's even worse is when they ask "base station or mobile?" I hear
"base station" a lot. Fortunately I seldom hear the term "channel" ,
though I have heard it, and it really makes me sad.
DE N6KB
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:35:34 -0800
From: "Alfred Lorona" <w6wqc@dslextreme.com>
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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
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Message: 7
What's this "Radio" jazz all about? Where did that come from?
Same place 'replicate' instead of duplicate and 'recuse' instead of excuse
and so on ad-infinitum came from.
AL
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:47:24 +0200
From: "Rick Westerman" <Rick@dj0ip.de>
To: "'Alfred Lorona'" <w6wqc@dslextreme.com>, <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [TenTec] OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
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Car instead of horseless carriage?
Some things never change, but most things do.
You guys are burning brain cycles over trivialities.
Hey, back then one was highly respected as a ham.
(S)he performed public service.
Neighbors helped us put up our antennas.
Today, a ham attacks the public's health with RF smog.
(S)he puts up ugly antennas which destroy the environment.
Here in Germany, operating a ham radio (same as for cell phones)
from a mobile (vehicle) is punishable by law (a steep fine, plus
points against your license) unless you have "hands free" (OK,
VOX) or stop and park first.
Gentlemen, these are the important things which have changed and
the issues we need to start spending our brain cycles on!
(Just my 2 cents worth).
73
Rick
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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio
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What's this "Radio" jazz all about? Where did that come from?
Same place 'replicate' instead of duplicate and 'recuse' instead
of excuse
and so on ad-infinitum came from.
AL
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:40:01 +0100
From: "Bob Towers" <mm3kdz@beeb.net>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] Corsair II warble
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I installed the PTO rebuild kit some weeks ago and it has
substantially cured the warble. However there are still minor instabilities
(ie frequency wandering) on some of the bands. The frequency jumping has
been cured, by the way.
I use PSK31 most of the time and I can see the stability of the PTO on the
waterfall display of MixW. In summary it's like this:
28Mhz I don't use, licence conditions prohibit!
24.920 some wandering, about +/- 10Hz
21.070 rock steady
18.100 some wandering, about +/- 10Hz
14.070 some wandering, about +/- 15Hz
10.142 rock steady
7.035 some wandering, about +/- 10Hz
3.580 some wandering, about +/- 10Hz
The worst offender is 14.070, to the point where some operators at the
other end of the QSOs comment on the instability. It also makes tuning of=
MFSK signal rather difficult.
The odd thing is the fact that two of the bands are not affected. If I
switch from 21.040 to 14.070 - without touching the tuning knob - the
instability appears, which makes me wonder whether the PTO mechanism is the
culprit.
I would appreciate any comments you might have.
Many thanks,
Bob Towers
MM3KDZ
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:00:28 +0000
From: ac5e@comcast.net
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
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Why are they radios and not "tele" something? Because "telegraphy" meaning far writing was already taken. Radio is a contracted form of the awkward telegraphy by artificial radiation - originally radio-telegraphy, then radio-telephony, and now just radio.
73 Pete Allen AC5E
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:39:52 -0600
From: "James Duffer" <dufferjames@hotmail.com>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [TenTec] OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
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Sorry Rob, Truckers have the rigs. Hams have receivers, transceivers,
transmitters etc.
Times change. However, if you listen to the cw contacts you will hear the
term rig mentioned still today, and on some QSL cards it is still a term
that is frequently used.....do you qsl? If you do are you going to use the
term "rig"? QSL used to be pretty much of the norm....wallpaper, maybe the
price of postage and cards or whatever makes that less likely to happen. 73,
Jim, wd4air
From: "Rob Atkinson, K5UJ" <k5uj@hotmail.com>
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Subject: [TenTec] OT: Radios? Why are they Radios? (Was Radio debate)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 03:09:48 +0000
I was QRT for around 18 years and became active again around 4 years ago.
When I was active before, transmitters-receivers/transceivers were called
rigs. When I came back they all had become "radios." I kind of went with
it with some perplexity but I've decided to ask what happened because a guy
wrote an article in CQ this month, telling his tale of being QRT for around
45 years and coming back, and he asked the same thing in his article.
What's this "Radio" jazz all about? Where did that come from? A radio is
this consumer electronics appliance folks use to swl, hear weather alerts,
broadcast transmissions, police, fire etc. A T4 isn't a radio. Neither is
a KWM2, or an Orion or anything else in a shack that delivers and receives
RF. They're rigs. We're hams. We have rigs. We don't need no stinkin'
radios. Next, the shack will be called the radio room.
Rob Atkinson
K5UJ
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:51:57 -0500
From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Corsair II warble
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Unfortunately Bob, you have a good radio that was designed many years before
digital modes were used and at that time, the stability you are quoting
would be way above par for those radios. If your getting a max of 10Hz freq
drift, count your blessings. The PTO is not going to do any better.
Tom - W4BQF
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From: "Bob Towers" <mm3kdz@beeb.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:40 AM
Subject: [TenTec] Corsair II warble
I installed the PTO rebuild kit some weeks ago and it has
substantially cured the warble. However there are still minor instabilities
(ie frequency wandering) on some of the bands. The frequency jumping has
been cured, by the way.
I use PSK31 most of the time and I can see the stability of the PTO on the
waterfall display of MixW. In summary it's like this:
28Mhz I don't use, licence conditions prohibit!
24.920 some wandering, about +/- 10Hz
21.070 rock steady
18.100 some wandering, about +/- 10Hz
14.070 some wandering, about +/- 15Hz
10.142 rock steady
7.035 some wandering, about +/- 10Hz
3.580 some wandering, about +/- 10Hz
The worst offender is 14.070, to the point where some operators at the
other end of the QSOs comment on the instability. It also makes tuning of
MFSK signal rather difficult.
The odd thing is the fact that two of the bands are not affected. If I
switch from 21.040 to 14.070 - without touching the tuning knob - the
instability appears, which makes me wonder whether the PTO mechanism is the
culprit.
I would appreciate any comments you might have.
Many thanks,
Bob Towers
MM3KDZ
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:22:43 +0100
From: "Bob Towers" <mm3kdz@beeb.net>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Corsair II warble
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On 30/03/2004 at 07:51 Tommy wrote:
Unfortunately Bob, you have a good radio that was designed many years
before
digital modes were used and at that time, the stability you are quoting
would be way above par for those radios. If your getting a max of 10Hz=
freq
drift, count your blessings. The PTO is not going to do any better.
Tom - W4BQF
Tom,
Many thanks for the reply...
You are right, but what intrigues - and annoys me - is that on 15m and 30m=
the stability is more than good enough for me. If the PTO is this good on=
these bands, how come it deteriorates when running 20m, for instance? It's=
a mystery to me. Also, I have a Kenwood TS-120V which isn't a patch on the=
Corsair as far as performance is concerned but which has pretty good=
stability, better than the Corsair on 20m.
73
Bob
MM3Kdz
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