To: | tentec@contesting.com |
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Subject: | [TenTec] Re: Orion Prog AGC Threshold |
From: | Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu> |
Reply-to: | tentec@contesting.com |
Date: | Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:08:13 -0500 |
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W4ZV> On 10 meters it may be 2-3 uV and on 160 it will seldom be below 20-30 uV and may reach as high as the maximum 192 uV on an extremely noisy night (storm QRN). S56A wrote: This empirical data nicely ilustrates natural noise level on 160 m being some 20 dB above higher bands and redundancy of preamps on modern <uV sensitive radios! It also shows low RX dynamic requirements for Top band :-) Referring to 160m, W8JI writes: My local wintertime 350Hz BW noise (after amplifier) compared to a sample of signals on one night was: Noise -127dBm 9H1BM -122dBm OM0WR -95dBm DF2PY -88dBm WA8OLN -78dBm W3GH -60dBm W4ZV -32dBm The dynamic range between noise and W4ZV was 95dB! It also illustrates how important antennas, location, and propagation are rather than power. The dB difference between signals from the same area is profound. Many signals run at or near noise floor. This may not be typical of every night, but it shows how large the signal level variations between weak DX and strong signals are. http://www.w8ji.com/receiving.htm Mario, it must be very nice to live in Europe where you don't have to contend with dynamic range problems on 160! Unfortunately that is not the case here in the USA. I'm also quite sure W8JI's TX signal is ~5 dB stronger at my QTH than I am at his since he uses a 4-square versus my single .35wl vertical. That would raise my dynamic range requirement to ~100 dB if I operate close to him. Fortunately Orion doesn't care as long as I am about 500 Hz away. So far, I have NEVER needed any attenuation to reduce IMD products on 160, even with Orion's Preamp on. 73 & Happy New Year to All! Bill W4ZV _______________________________________________ TenTec mailing list TenTec@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec |
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