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Re: [TenTec] TT Orion: Also SEMI-BK-IN possible ?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT Orion: Also SEMI-BK-IN possible ?
From: Bob Henderson <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:54:48 +0000
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I may be wrong but when folks make reference here to PTT I don't think they necessarily have in mind a physical "push to talk". Many contest stations are set up such that TX/RX sequencing is under the direct control of computer logging software. Some eminent contesters seem concerned that breaking this link could introduce unecessary risk to expensive hardware, operating under extreme conditions.

Now come on guys.......lead on with the "I don't need that, I don't understand that, I don't want that, Ten Tec shouldn't do that.....buy a different rig......I'm starting to enjoy the refrain!

Bob, 5B4AGN





Ulrich Hilsinger wrote:

Many thanks to Carl N4PY, Jack AK7O and Duane N9DG for the comments.

Of course I agree with Jack that on HF, QSK is an abolute must for reliable operation. It has nothing to do with PTT: Be sure, I'll not use a PTT for CW contesting, I only have two hands, one for the PC, one for the keyer, that's all...)
On VHF, as Duane explained well, QSK is not that easy as on HF (even if the situation here is not worst-case: Power is medium, and no preamp's used due to the short feedline), but of course nobody will use an extra PTT on nowadays rigs..
Thanks to Carl it now seems sure to me that I could use semi QSK easily with the ORION, just as known from my actual equipment with using the TS850...


So again thanks a lot for the help.

hny2004,
Ulrich, DH0GHU
dh0ghu@dh0ghu.de





Carl Moreschi wrote:

Semi-breakin on the Orion is easily done by using the QSK adjustment. There
is also a variable delay that can set to hold amplifiers and transverters in
the transmit position for up to 1 full second after keying is over. And
keying the Orion is delayed 20 milliseconds to allow the external relays to
transfer. So no keying problems should occur for you.


Carl Moreschi N4PY
Franklinton, NC


Duane Grotophorst wrote:

> --- jack <jfriend31@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>i have no idea why the big fuss over QSK ...when i
>>discovered full breakin
>>out went the need/use for anything else ...if the
>>amp won't do QSK replace
>>it! jack ak7o
>>
>
>
> While on HF it is not a very hard or terribly
> expensive to do full QSK at high power on VHF/UHF/SHF
> it is simply not an option in most cases. The last
> thing you can afford to do is replace VERY expensive
> tower mounted relays/preamps every few contests, never
> mind the fact that many of those relays simply aren't
> fast enough to begin with for QSK. And in a
> transverter configuration there maybe 3-4 pieces of
> equipment all needing to switch between RX/TX in the
> proper sequence, not just a radio and an amplifier. So
> there is considerably more complexity out of the gate.
>
> If the Orion is at all like the Pegasus for external
> keying behavior from the PTT out jack it then will
> switch external devices quite nicely in a semi QSK
> fashion.
>
> Duane
> N9DG
> EN53bj



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