Thank you Carl for your strightforward response to my question. That's all I
was looking for was an answer to my question. As far as the aditional peanut
gallery responses, apparently somone has
contracted a virus in the grey matter between the ears. I agree with the
poster who remarked on
wasted bandwidth. Those poor trillions of inconvenienced electrons must be
getting awfully tired by
now. They need a rest.
>From: tentec-request@contesting.com
>Reply-To: tentec@contesting.com
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Subject: TenTec Digest, Vol 7, Issue 15
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 16:37:31 -0400
>
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> 1. RE: Orion Question (RON ZOND)
> 2. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
> 3. Re: TenTec Digest, Vol 7, Issue 14 (M.Todd Miskel)
> 4. Still need help! (Ernest Mills)
> 5. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN! (Bill Fulling)
> 6. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN! (tongaloa)
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:31:37 -0400
>From: "RON ZOND" <K3MIY@CSONLINE.NET>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Subject: RE: [TenTec] Orion Question
>Message-ID: <CIEDKLJCOKKJOMIPHIDOKECADEAA.K3MIY@CSONLINE.NET>
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>Gang
>
>i thought of this before I bought my Argo, and so did an article in QST
>sometime ago. Since this is an open forum, a virus writer might take some
>comments as a challenge, go to the rfsquared website, get the RUF files,
>tinker with them, and somehow get them back on the website, and the
>problems
>would begin. Just a caveat that there is always a first time for anything.
>
>Ron
>K3MIY
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
>[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Duane Grotophorst
>Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 10:41 AM
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question
>
>
>The risk of viruses or worms being turned loose in/on
>radio(s) such as an Orion (or any other Ten Tec Flash
>ROM based radios) is for all practical purposes zero.
>
>Even though it is micro processor ans DSP based it
>really is not a "computer" at all like a desktop PC
>is, in fact the Orion and its predecessors are highly
>specialized designs that share nothing at all in
>common with a desktop PC. Additionally worms and
>viruses depend on mechanisms to propagate themselves,
>such mechanisms simply don't exist for any of these
>radios. Worst case case thing that someone could do is
>create a bogus RUF file that does strange things and
>then somehow get it distributed out to a lot of end
>users, an extremely unlikely scenario. Even then they
>couldn't make it self-propagate from radio to radio,
>so as far as a worm or virus would go it would be a
>total dud. Also they would need to have a radio on
>hand in order to understand how it works and to then
>be able write malicious code and debug it, I can't
>imagine that a virus/worm writer would make that kind
>effort or investment to begin with, especially for
>something so esoteric as a amateur radio transceiver.
>
>I don't see any risk with existing worms or viruses
>damaging the RFSquared supplied RUF files either,
>again they are so specialized that it is very unlikely
>that anyone will write a worm to even be aware of them
>much less to wreak any havoc with them.
>
>Duane
>N9DG
>
>
>--- "M.Todd Miskel" <kd7efq62@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much
> > computer as it is radio, the
> > question of viruses comes to
> > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan
> > horses, worms etc. that can go
> > undetected by Norton,
> > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan
> > programs, Just how vulnerable
> > is the Orion to these maladies
> > and how much damage could one do? With downloading
> > new software over the
> > net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> >
>
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To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:42:12 EDT
>From: AC5E@aol.com
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>Message-ID: <11.14e36a24.2c3867f4@aol.com>
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>
>COX .049! Gee, you shudda tried the Thor .019's, circa 1947. It didn't
>matter what fuel you used, they were completely odorless. You could spin
>'em all
>day and they wouldn't crank!
>
>Personally, though, I think grass cutting is for horses. Aroma therapy is
>the odor of a well ridden horse, mixed with leather, sweet grass hay, dust
>off
>the currycomb, finished off with a cold 807 taken slowly in the company of
>friends.
>
>73 Pete Allen AC5E
>------------------------------
>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:43:57 -0600
>From: "M.Todd Miskel" <kd7efq62@hotmail.com>
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Subject: [TenTec] Re: TenTec Digest, Vol 7, Issue 14
>Message-ID: <Law15-F91eWgUSp3sJW000227e2@hotmail.com>
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>
>Geez... I had no idea so many people had so little to do. Next time I'll be
>careful what I ask for! 73, KD7EFQ
>
>
> >From: tentec-request@contesting.com
> >Reply-To: tentec@contesting.com
> >To: tentec@contesting.com
> >Subject: TenTec Digest, Vol 7, Issue 14
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 12:00:55 -0400
> >
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> >
> > 1. Re: Orion Question (Carl Moreschi)
> > 2. Product Reviews II (John Rippey)
> > 3. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN! (tongaloa)
> > 4. Re: Orion Question (Duane Grotophorst)
> > 5. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN! (Carl Moreschi)
> > 6. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN! (Gary Hoffman)
> > 7. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN! (Gary Hoffman)
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:48:09 -0000
> >From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@earthlink.net>
> >To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question
> >Message-ID: <001101c342fc$12c99b20$23b1bf3f@oemcomputer>
> >References: <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com>
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> >Message: 1
> >
> >No, it's not a concern at all. When you load firmware into the Orion,
>the
> >RUF file must follow an exact format or it will not load.
> >
> >Carl Moreschi N4PY
> >Franklinton, NC
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "M.Todd Miskel" <kd7efq62@hotmail.com>
> >To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 1:45 PM
> >Subject: [TenTec] Orion Question
> >
> >
> > > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is
>radio,
> >the
> > > question of viruses comes to
> > > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc. that
> >can
> >go
> > > undetected by Norton,
> > > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
> >vulnerable
> > > is the Orion to these maladies
> > > and how much damage could one do? With downloading new software over
>the
> > > net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> > >
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> >------------------------------
> >
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 10:06:42 -0400
> >From: John Rippey <w3uls@3n.net>
> >To: tentec@contesting.com
> >Subject: [TenTec] Product Reviews II
> >Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030705092859.00a93aa0@3n.net>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
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> >Message: 2
> >
> >As has been pointed out in previous postings, there is precious little
> >information available (outside of the manufacturer) to guide a ham's
> >transceiver purchase. ARRL is one source, and people with good test
> >equipment and know-how, like W8JI, are another.
> >
> >W8JI focuses on 160, which is not my band of choice. Nevertheless, Rauch
> >does make some comments of general applicability. His war on key clicks
>is
> >an example. (Regarding key clicks, Rauch's most recent postings have been
> >quite pessimistic about getting manufacturers to improve in this area. I
>am
> >sure one of the aspects of the ORION Rauch will closely examine is the
> >shape of the CW keying envelope, something we know Ten-Tec has
>addressed.)
> >
> >I have been pleasantly surprsied to discover that the keying bandwidth of
> >my IC-746PRO is relatively modest, about 1 kHz, compared to the atrocious
> >2.5+ kHz of my FT-920. The QSK performance of the IC-746PRO, moreover, is
> >smooth as silk, not thumpy like the FT-920. Another surprise. (I haven't
> >had a chance to make an evaluation of my new/used OMNI VI since it is
>back
> >at Ten-Tec for repairs.)
> >
> >With regard to the ARRL written reviews, I given them the benefit of the
> >doubt as to the integrity of the writer-upper. However, it seems that
>with
> >the depaqrture in the mid-90s of Rus Healy, who operated largely CW,
>there
> >has not been a reviewer who is a CW fanatic. Healy did very good reviews,
> >for example, of the FT-1000D and the original OMNI VI. The folks who have
> >been writing the reviews lately seem to be diligent, but their interest
> >seems to be more in SSB ragchews than in CW DX and contests. Others
> >evidence preferences for VHF and digital modes. So we end up with a
> >catch-as-catch-can write-up from the perspective of a particular
>reviewer's
> >preferences, the end product often being not all that helpful from my
>point
> >of view. As has been pointed out, the QST review of the Argonaut V did
>not
> >do this fine rig any favors. I thought it deserved more positive
>coverage.
> >
> >Another issue is that ARRL's standards have slipped. Early and mid-90s
> >reviews would mention critically if a transceiver's 3d-order IMD on
> >transmit fell below -30dB. These days, a -24dB IMD finding elicits no
> >particular response from the reviewer (Cf. IC-703 review).
> >
> >I think this reflects the precarious budgetary problems at Newington
> >(second or third year of deficits?). My solution is to promote membership
> >in the ARRL so it does not continue to have to operate on a shoestring.
> >With ARRL on a sound financial footing, the reviewers can become more
> >independent of QST's advertisers and the reviews can be of greater value
>to
> >the members.
> >
> >Finally, ARRL's lab tests only one sample of a transceiver, and sometimes
>I
> >scratch my head as to the numbers. A case in point: the 3d-order
>intercept
> >point reported for the Argonaut V.
> >
> >We all await with interest what QST reports about the ORION, probably in
> >late fall or early winter. (I hope they wait until they can get a couple
>of
> >CW contests under their belt before publishing the review.)
> >
> >73,
> >John
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 10:29:11 -0400
> >From: tongaloa <tongaloa@alltel.net>
> >To: tentec@contesting.com
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
> >Message-ID: <3F06E0B7.5070805@alltel.net>
> >References: <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
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> >Message: 3
> >
> >This is an extremely serious problem with these new radios.
> >Why you could be tuning across the band one minute and next thing you
> >know, your radio's been infected, the disease spreads through the power
> >lines,
> >your vacumn cleaner grabs the cat buy it's tail, tosses it in the
>microwave
> >and it's Chinese food for dinner....
> >
> >On a more serious note...
> >
> >Most of us love the olfactory stimulation resulting from a sensuous
> >tendril of
> >resin smoke. (Comes from melting solder for you appliance guys!). This
>note
> >is to report a similarly pleasurable experience that every guy who
>performs
> >is own lawn maintenance can enjoy. Did it myself last weekend and for the
> >first time in my life am actually watchign the grass grow in anticipation
> >of
> >mowing it again! What am I talking about? Well if you're 50's plus or
>minus
> >a bit, you probably flew motorized model airplanes as a kid. U-control,
> >free flight, or radio control. I've stumbled upon a simple way to bring
> >all those
> >memories of warm summer days and racous engines. Some of you guys
> >already have lights going on in your heads....
> >
> >Back to the lawn mowing. With only about 10,000 sq feet to cut a tractor
> >is out
> >of the question. The only manly option then is a big TWO STROKE mower.
> >Lawn boy, McCollough, Jacobson, take your pick.
> >
> >Now for the meat of this message. Get your ass over to the pharmacy and
> >spend the
> >$3.50 it takes to purchase a 4 oz. bottle of Castor Oil. For the last 20
> >years or so
> >1:32 is THE mix so also pick up a gallon of regular. Mix 'em up, pour
> >mix in, and
> >commence to cutting. Under the warm sun, as the aroma of burning castor
> >oil makes
> >it's presence known, all your memories of youthful model flying return
> >and before
> >you know it, the tanks empty and your watching the grass, mentally
> >urging it to grow...
> >
> >-Bob
> >
> >
> >-Bob
> >
> >M.Todd Miskel wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is
> > > radio, the question of viruses comes to
> > > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc. that
> > > can go undetected by Norton,
> > > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
> > > vulnerable is the Orion to these maladies
> > > and how much damage could one do? With downloading new software over
> > > the net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 07:40:42 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Duane Grotophorst <n9dg@yahoo.com>
> >To: tentec@contesting.com
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question
> >Message-ID: <20030705144042.12426.qmail@web12606.mail.yahoo.com>
> >In-Reply-To: <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com>
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> >Message: 4
> >
> >The risk of viruses or worms being turned loose in/on
> >radio(s) such as an Orion (or any other Ten Tec Flash
> >ROM based radios) is for all practical purposes zero.
> >
> >Even though it is micro processor ans DSP based it
> >really is not a "computer" at all like a desktop PC
> >is, in fact the Orion and its predecessors are highly
> >specialized designs that share nothing at all in
> >common with a desktop PC. Additionally worms and
> >viruses depend on mechanisms to propagate themselves,
> >such mechanisms simply don't exist for any of these
> >radios. Worst case case thing that someone could do is
> >create a bogus RUF file that does strange things and
> >then somehow get it distributed out to a lot of end
> >users, an extremely unlikely scenario. Even then they
> >couldn't make it self-propagate from radio to radio,
> >so as far as a worm or virus would go it would be a
> >total dud. Also they would need to have a radio on
> >hand in order to understand how it works and to then
> >be able write malicious code and debug it, I can't
> >imagine that a virus/worm writer would make that kind
> >effort or investment to begin with, especially for
> >something so esoteric as a amateur radio transceiver.
> >
> >I don't see any risk with existing worms or viruses
> >damaging the RFSquared supplied RUF files either,
> >again they are so specialized that it is very unlikely
> >that anyone will write a worm to even be aware of them
> >much less to wreak any havoc with them.
> >
> >Duane
> >N9DG
> >
> >
> >--- "M.Todd Miskel" <kd7efq62@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much
> > > computer as it is radio, the
> > > question of viruses comes to
> > > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan
> > > horses, worms etc. that can go
> > > undetected by Norton,
> > > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan
> > > programs, Just how vulnerable
> > > is the Orion to these maladies
> > > and how much damage could one do? With downloading
> > > new software over the
> > > net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> > >
> >
> >__________________________________
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> >------------------------------
> >
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:47:50 -0000
> >From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@earthlink.net>
> >To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
> >Message-ID: <000801c34304$696a2500$0968b141@oemcomputer>
> >References: <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com>
> > <3F06E0B7.5070805@alltel.net>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
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> >Message: 5
> >
> >I remember the smell of those U control model airplanes and all those Cox
> >.049 engines. So all I need to do is get some Castor oil and cut the
> >grass.
> >Sounds very fun and nostalgic.
> >
> >Carl Moreschi N4PY
> >Franklinton, NC
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "tongaloa" <tongaloa@alltel.net>
> >To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 2:29 PM
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
> >
> >
> > > This is an extremely serious problem with these new radios.
> > > Why you could be tuning across the band one minute and next thing you
> > > know, your radio's been infected, the disease spreads through the
>power
> > > lines,
> > > your vacumn cleaner grabs the cat buy it's tail, tosses it in the
> >microwave
> > > and it's Chinese food for dinner....
> > >
> > > On a more serious note...
> > >
> > > Most of us love the olfactory stimulation resulting from a sensuous
> > > tendril of
> > > resin smoke. (Comes from melting solder for you appliance guys!). This
> >note
> > > is to report a similarly pleasurable experience that every guy who
> >performs
> > > is own lawn maintenance can enjoy. Did it myself last weekend and for
> >the
> > > first time in my life am actually watchign the grass grow in
> >anticipation
> >of
> > > mowing it again! What am I talking about? Well if you're 50's plus or
> >minus
> > > a bit, you probably flew motorized model airplanes as a kid.
>U-control,
> > > free flight, or radio control. I've stumbled upon a simple way to
>bring
> > > all those
> > > memories of warm summer days and racous engines. Some of you guys
> > > already have lights going on in your heads....
> > >
> > > Back to the lawn mowing. With only about 10,000 sq feet to cut a
>tractor
> > > is out
> > > of the question. The only manly option then is a big TWO STROKE mower.
> > > Lawn boy, McCollough, Jacobson, take your pick.
> > >
> > > Now for the meat of this message. Get your ass over to the pharmacy
>and
> > > spend the
> > > $3.50 it takes to purchase a 4 oz. bottle of Castor Oil. For the last
>20
> > > years or so
> > > 1:32 is THE mix so also pick up a gallon of regular. Mix 'em up, pour
> > > mix in, and
> > > commence to cutting. Under the warm sun, as the aroma of burning
>castor
> > > oil makes
> > > it's presence known, all your memories of youthful model flying return
> > > and before
> > > you know it, the tanks empty and your watching the grass, mentally
> > > urging it to grow...
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
> > > M.Todd Miskel wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is
> > > > radio, the question of viruses comes to
> > > > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc.
>that
> > > > can go undetected by Norton,
> > > > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
> > > > vulnerable is the Orion to these maladies
> > > > and how much damage could one do? With downloading new software over
> > > > the net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> > > >
> > > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
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> > >
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> >------------------------------
> >
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:34:50 -0400
> >From: "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
> >To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
> >Message-ID: <000901c3430a$f8f07cf0$6301a8c0@AA2IZ>
> >References: <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com>
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> >Reply-To: Gary Hoffman <ghoffman@spacetech.com>, tentec@contesting.com
> >Message: 6
> >
> >Bob,
> >
> >You are a very, VERY sick man !! :)
> >
> >73 de Gary, AA2IZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "tongaloa" <tongaloa@alltel.net>
> >To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 10:29 AM
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
> >
> >
> > > This is an extremely serious problem with these new radios.
> > > Why you could be tuning across the band one minute and next thing you
> > > know, your radio's been infected, the disease spreads through the
>power
> > > lines,
> > > your vacumn cleaner grabs the cat buy it's tail, tosses it in the
> >microwave
> > > and it's Chinese food for dinner....
> > >
> > > On a more serious note...
> > >
> > > Most of us love the olfactory stimulation resulting from a sensuous
> > > tendril of
> > > resin smoke. (Comes from melting solder for you appliance guys!). This
> >note
> > > is to report a similarly pleasurable experience that every guy who
> >performs
> > > is own lawn maintenance can enjoy. Did it myself last weekend and for
> >the
> > > first time in my life am actually watchign the grass grow in
> >anticipation
> >of
> > > mowing it again! What am I talking about? Well if you're 50's plus or
> >minus
> > > a bit, you probably flew motorized model airplanes as a kid.
>U-control,
> > > free flight, or radio control. I've stumbled upon a simple way to
>bring
> > > all those
> > > memories of warm summer days and racous engines. Some of you guys
> > > already have lights going on in your heads....
> > >
> > > Back to the lawn mowing. With only about 10,000 sq feet to cut a
>tractor
> > > is out
> > > of the question. The only manly option then is a big TWO STROKE mower.
> > > Lawn boy, McCollough, Jacobson, take your pick.
> > >
> > > Now for the meat of this message. Get your ass over to the pharmacy
>and
> > > spend the
> > > $3.50 it takes to purchase a 4 oz. bottle of Castor Oil. For the last
>20
> > > years or so
> > > 1:32 is THE mix so also pick up a gallon of regular. Mix 'em up, pour
> > > mix in, and
> > > commence to cutting. Under the warm sun, as the aroma of burning
>castor
> > > oil makes
> > > it's presence known, all your memories of youthful model flying return
> > > and before
> > > you know it, the tanks empty and your watching the grass, mentally
> > > urging it to grow...
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
> > > M.Todd Miskel wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is
> > > > radio, the question of viruses comes to
> > > > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc.
>that
> > > > can go undetected by Norton,
> > > > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
> > > > vulnerable is the Orion to these maladies
> > > > and how much damage could one do? With downloading new software over
> > > > the net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> > > >
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> >
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:37:00 -0400
> >From: "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
> >To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
> >Message-ID: <001501c3430b$46866560$6301a8c0@AA2IZ>
> >References:
> > <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com><3F06E0B7.5070805@alltel.net>
> > <000801c34304$696a2500$0968b141@oemcomputer>
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> >Message: 7
> >
> >Of course, then one needs to drink brandy... to offset the ...er....
> >"effects" of the castor oil. :)
> >
> >
> >73 de Gary, AA2IZ
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@earthlink.net>
> >To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 10:47 AM
> >Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
> >
> >
> > > I remember the smell of those U control model airplanes and all those
> >Cox
> > > .049 engines. So all I need to do is get some Castor oil and cut the
> >grass.
> > > Sounds very fun and nostalgic.
> > >
> > > Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > > Franklinton, NC
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "tongaloa" <tongaloa@alltel.net>
> > > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 2:29 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is an extremely serious problem with these new radios.
> > > > Why you could be tuning across the band one minute and next thing
>you
> > > > know, your radio's been infected, the disease spreads through the
> >power
> > > > lines,
> > > > your vacumn cleaner grabs the cat buy it's tail, tosses it in the
> > > microwave
> > > > and it's Chinese food for dinner....
> > > >
> > > > On a more serious note...
> > > >
> > > > Most of us love the olfactory stimulation resulting from a sensuous
> > > > tendril of
> > > > resin smoke. (Comes from melting solder for you appliance guys!).
>This
> > > note
> > > > is to report a similarly pleasurable experience that every guy who
> > > performs
> > > > is own lawn maintenance can enjoy. Did it myself last weekend and
>for
> >the
> > > > first time in my life am actually watchign the grass grow in
> >anticipation
> > > of
> > > > mowing it again! What am I talking about? Well if you're 50's plus
>or
> > > minus
> > > > a bit, you probably flew motorized model airplanes as a kid.
> >U-control,
> > > > free flight, or radio control. I've stumbled upon a simple way to
> >bring
> > > > all those
> > > > memories of warm summer days and racous engines. Some of you guys
> > > > already have lights going on in your heads....
> > > >
> > > > Back to the lawn mowing. With only about 10,000 sq feet to cut a
> >tractor
> > > > is out
> > > > of the question. The only manly option then is a big TWO STROKE
>mower.
> > > > Lawn boy, McCollough, Jacobson, take your pick.
> > > >
> > > > Now for the meat of this message. Get your ass over to the pharmacy
> >and
> > > > spend the
> > > > $3.50 it takes to purchase a 4 oz. bottle of Castor Oil. For the
>last
> >20
> > > > years or so
> > > > 1:32 is THE mix so also pick up a gallon of regular. Mix 'em up,
>pour
> > > > mix in, and
> > > > commence to cutting. Under the warm sun, as the aroma of burning
> >castor
> > > > oil makes
> > > > it's presence known, all your memories of youthful model flying
>return
> > > > and before
> > > > you know it, the tanks empty and your watching the grass, mentally
> > > > urging it to grow...
> > > >
> > > > -Bob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Bob
> > > >
> > > > M.Todd Miskel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is
> > > > > radio, the question of viruses comes to
> > > > > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc.
> >that
> > > > > can go undetected by Norton,
> > > > > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
> > > > > vulnerable is the Orion to these maladies
> > > > > and how much damage could one do? With downloading new software
>over
> > > > > the net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> > > > >
> > > > > _________________________________________________________________
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> > > >
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To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:19:53 -0400
>From: "Ernest Mills" <emills@nycap.rr.com>
>To: "\(GR\) TenTec Contesting" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Subject: [TenTec] Still need help!
>Message-ID: <000b01c341a0$79b95df0$7c84c318@dosh>
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>Message: 4
>
>Hi,
> Many thanks for the guys who helped me out recently with this =
>problem. =20
> =20
> I have a Pegasus 550 with built in LDG PT-11 built in tuner. Got the =
>latest firmware installed 1.201. TenTec GUI 1.71b1, N4PY ver 2.08. Delta =
>Loop 40m)
>
> New Balun, feed line installed. Delta loop new last fall.
>
>
> Problem: No drive on 20 meters! Will not Auto Tune, will not =
>manual tune with MFJ 949E and internal tuner disabled. seems ok on 40m, =
>15m and 10m although do notice on 15m with auto Tune it settles out at =
>power out 50 - ref 5 - swr 1.95 I always need to tweak the autotuner. 2 =
>clicks on C+ gives me 50w o/p - 0 ref - 1.00 swr.
>
> With internal tuner disabled and o/p set to 50w. TUNE gives me:
>
> 15m - 30w o/p - 0 ref - 1.00 swr
> 20m - 0w o/p - 0 ref - 1.00 swr
>
>
> Driving me daft it is. :) Ernie
>------------------------------
>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 16:31:55 -0400
>From: "Bill Fulling" <w4njf@email.midflorida.com>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>Message-ID: <001e01c34334$7a4a0ea0$57cb1f43@billz5p1tvz7r3>
>References: <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com>
> <3F06E0B7.5070805@alltel.net>
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>
>Astroturf your lawn;the reflector will save a whole lot of wasted BW this
>way!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "tongaloa" <tongaloa@alltel.net>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 10:29 AM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>
>
> > This is an extremely serious problem with these new radios.
> > Why you could be tuning across the band one minute and next thing you
> > know, your radio's been infected, the disease spreads through the power
> > lines,
> > your vacumn cleaner grabs the cat buy it's tail, tosses it in the
>microwave
> > and it's Chinese food for dinner....
> >
> > On a more serious note...
> >
> > Most of us love the olfactory stimulation resulting from a sensuous
> > tendril of
> > resin smoke. (Comes from melting solder for you appliance guys!). This
>note
> > is to report a similarly pleasurable experience that every guy who
>performs
> > is own lawn maintenance can enjoy. Did it myself last weekend and for
>the
> > first time in my life am actually watchign the grass grow in
>anticipation
>of
> > mowing it again! What am I talking about? Well if you're 50's plus or
>minus
> > a bit, you probably flew motorized model airplanes as a kid. U-control,
> > free flight, or radio control. I've stumbled upon a simple way to bring
> > all those
> > memories of warm summer days and racous engines. Some of you guys
> > already have lights going on in your heads....
> >
> > Back to the lawn mowing. With only about 10,000 sq feet to cut a tractor
> > is out
> > of the question. The only manly option then is a big TWO STROKE mower.
> > Lawn boy, McCollough, Jacobson, take your pick.
> >
> > Now for the meat of this message. Get your ass over to the pharmacy and
> > spend the
> > $3.50 it takes to purchase a 4 oz. bottle of Castor Oil. For the last 20
> > years or so
> > 1:32 is THE mix so also pick up a gallon of regular. Mix 'em up, pour
> > mix in, and
> > commence to cutting. Under the warm sun, as the aroma of burning castor
> > oil makes
> > it's presence known, all your memories of youthful model flying return
> > and before
> > you know it, the tanks empty and your watching the grass, mentally
> > urging it to grow...
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> > M.Todd Miskel wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is
> > > radio, the question of viruses comes to
> > > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc. that
> > > can go undetected by Norton,
> > > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
> > > vulnerable is the Orion to these maladies
> > > and how much damage could one do? With downloading new software over
> > > the net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
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> >
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>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 16:38:05 -0400
>From: tongaloa <tongaloa@alltel.net>
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>Message-ID: <3F07372D.7020507@alltel.net>
>References: <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com>
> <001e01c34334$7a4a0ea0$57cb1f43@billz5p1tvz7r3>
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>
>Wasted bandwidth!
>
>It's a ^%$# thimble in the ocean of "All hail the holy tentec, he can do
>no wrong"
>submissions!
>
>You want to save bandwidth? Trim your &^$# reponses!
>
>Bill Fulling wrote:
>
> >Astroturf your lawn;the reflector will save a whole lot of wasted BW this
> >way!
> >
>
>
>
>
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