Geez... I had no idea so many people had so little to do. Next time I'll be
careful what I ask for! 73, KD7EFQ
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> 1. Re: Orion Question (Carl Moreschi)
> 2. Product Reviews II (John Rippey)
> 3. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN! (tongaloa)
> 4. Re: Orion Question (Duane Grotophorst)
> 5. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN! (Carl Moreschi)
> 6. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN! (Gary Hoffman)
> 7. Re: Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN! (Gary Hoffman)
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:48:09 -0000
>From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@earthlink.net>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question
>Message-ID: <001101c342fc$12c99b20$23b1bf3f@oemcomputer>
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>
>No, it's not a concern at all. When you load firmware into the Orion, the
>RUF file must follow an exact format or it will not load.
>
>Carl Moreschi N4PY
>Franklinton, NC
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "M.Todd Miskel" <kd7efq62@hotmail.com>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 1:45 PM
>Subject: [TenTec] Orion Question
>
>
> > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is radio,
>the
> > question of viruses comes to
> > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc. that
>can
>go
> > undetected by Norton,
> > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
>vulnerable
> > is the Orion to these maladies
> > and how much damage could one do? With downloading new software over the
> > net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> >
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>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 10:06:42 -0400
>From: John Rippey <w3uls@3n.net>
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Subject: [TenTec] Product Reviews II
>Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030705092859.00a93aa0@3n.net>
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>
>As has been pointed out in previous postings, there is precious little
>information available (outside of the manufacturer) to guide a ham's
>transceiver purchase. ARRL is one source, and people with good test
>equipment and know-how, like W8JI, are another.
>
>W8JI focuses on 160, which is not my band of choice. Nevertheless, Rauch
>does make some comments of general applicability. His war on key clicks is
>an example. (Regarding key clicks, Rauch's most recent postings have been
>quite pessimistic about getting manufacturers to improve in this area. I am
>sure one of the aspects of the ORION Rauch will closely examine is the
>shape of the CW keying envelope, something we know Ten-Tec has addressed.)
>
>I have been pleasantly surprsied to discover that the keying bandwidth of
>my IC-746PRO is relatively modest, about 1 kHz, compared to the atrocious
>2.5+ kHz of my FT-920. The QSK performance of the IC-746PRO, moreover, is
>smooth as silk, not thumpy like the FT-920. Another surprise. (I haven't
>had a chance to make an evaluation of my new/used OMNI VI since it is back
>at Ten-Tec for repairs.)
>
>With regard to the ARRL written reviews, I given them the benefit of the
>doubt as to the integrity of the writer-upper. However, it seems that with
>the depaqrture in the mid-90s of Rus Healy, who operated largely CW, there
>has not been a reviewer who is a CW fanatic. Healy did very good reviews,
>for example, of the FT-1000D and the original OMNI VI. The folks who have
>been writing the reviews lately seem to be diligent, but their interest
>seems to be more in SSB ragchews than in CW DX and contests. Others
>evidence preferences for VHF and digital modes. So we end up with a
>catch-as-catch-can write-up from the perspective of a particular reviewer's
>preferences, the end product often being not all that helpful from my point
>of view. As has been pointed out, the QST review of the Argonaut V did not
>do this fine rig any favors. I thought it deserved more positive coverage.
>
>Another issue is that ARRL's standards have slipped. Early and mid-90s
>reviews would mention critically if a transceiver's 3d-order IMD on
>transmit fell below -30dB. These days, a -24dB IMD finding elicits no
>particular response from the reviewer (Cf. IC-703 review).
>
>I think this reflects the precarious budgetary problems at Newington
>(second or third year of deficits?). My solution is to promote membership
>in the ARRL so it does not continue to have to operate on a shoestring.
>With ARRL on a sound financial footing, the reviewers can become more
>independent of QST's advertisers and the reviews can be of greater value to
>the members.
>
>Finally, ARRL's lab tests only one sample of a transceiver, and sometimes I
>scratch my head as to the numbers. A case in point: the 3d-order intercept
>point reported for the Argonaut V.
>
>We all await with interest what QST reports about the ORION, probably in
>late fall or early winter. (I hope they wait until they can get a couple of
>CW contests under their belt before publishing the review.)
>
>73,
>John
>
>
>------------------------------
>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 10:29:11 -0400
>From: tongaloa <tongaloa@alltel.net>
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>Message-ID: <3F06E0B7.5070805@alltel.net>
>References: <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com>
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>Message: 3
>
>This is an extremely serious problem with these new radios.
>Why you could be tuning across the band one minute and next thing you
>know, your radio's been infected, the disease spreads through the power
>lines,
>your vacumn cleaner grabs the cat buy it's tail, tosses it in the microwave
>and it's Chinese food for dinner....
>
>On a more serious note...
>
>Most of us love the olfactory stimulation resulting from a sensuous
>tendril of
>resin smoke. (Comes from melting solder for you appliance guys!). This note
>is to report a similarly pleasurable experience that every guy who performs
>is own lawn maintenance can enjoy. Did it myself last weekend and for the
>first time in my life am actually watchign the grass grow in anticipation
>of
>mowing it again! What am I talking about? Well if you're 50's plus or minus
>a bit, you probably flew motorized model airplanes as a kid. U-control,
>free flight, or radio control. I've stumbled upon a simple way to bring
>all those
>memories of warm summer days and racous engines. Some of you guys
>already have lights going on in your heads....
>
>Back to the lawn mowing. With only about 10,000 sq feet to cut a tractor
>is out
>of the question. The only manly option then is a big TWO STROKE mower.
>Lawn boy, McCollough, Jacobson, take your pick.
>
>Now for the meat of this message. Get your ass over to the pharmacy and
>spend the
>$3.50 it takes to purchase a 4 oz. bottle of Castor Oil. For the last 20
>years or so
>1:32 is THE mix so also pick up a gallon of regular. Mix 'em up, pour
>mix in, and
>commence to cutting. Under the warm sun, as the aroma of burning castor
>oil makes
>it's presence known, all your memories of youthful model flying return
>and before
>you know it, the tanks empty and your watching the grass, mentally
>urging it to grow...
>
>-Bob
>
>
>-Bob
>
>M.Todd Miskel wrote:
>
> > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is
> > radio, the question of viruses comes to
> > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc. that
> > can go undetected by Norton,
> > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
> > vulnerable is the Orion to these maladies
> > and how much damage could one do? With downloading new software over
> > the net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> >
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>------------------------------
>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 07:40:42 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Duane Grotophorst <n9dg@yahoo.com>
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question
>Message-ID: <20030705144042.12426.qmail@web12606.mail.yahoo.com>
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>
>The risk of viruses or worms being turned loose in/on
>radio(s) such as an Orion (or any other Ten Tec Flash
>ROM based radios) is for all practical purposes zero.
>
>Even though it is micro processor ans DSP based it
>really is not a "computer" at all like a desktop PC
>is, in fact the Orion and its predecessors are highly
>specialized designs that share nothing at all in
>common with a desktop PC. Additionally worms and
>viruses depend on mechanisms to propagate themselves,
>such mechanisms simply don't exist for any of these
>radios. Worst case case thing that someone could do is
>create a bogus RUF file that does strange things and
>then somehow get it distributed out to a lot of end
>users, an extremely unlikely scenario. Even then they
>couldn't make it self-propagate from radio to radio,
>so as far as a worm or virus would go it would be a
>total dud. Also they would need to have a radio on
>hand in order to understand how it works and to then
>be able write malicious code and debug it, I can't
>imagine that a virus/worm writer would make that kind
>effort or investment to begin with, especially for
>something so esoteric as a amateur radio transceiver.
>
>I don't see any risk with existing worms or viruses
>damaging the RFSquared supplied RUF files either,
>again they are so specialized that it is very unlikely
>that anyone will write a worm to even be aware of them
>much less to wreak any havoc with them.
>
>Duane
>N9DG
>
>
>--- "M.Todd Miskel" <kd7efq62@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much
> > computer as it is radio, the
> > question of viruses comes to
> > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan
> > horses, worms etc. that can go
> > undetected by Norton,
> > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan
> > programs, Just how vulnerable
> > is the Orion to these maladies
> > and how much damage could one do? With downloading
> > new software over the
> > net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> >
>
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>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:47:50 -0000
>From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@earthlink.net>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>Message-ID: <000801c34304$696a2500$0968b141@oemcomputer>
>References: <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com>
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>Message: 5
>
>I remember the smell of those U control model airplanes and all those Cox
>.049 engines. So all I need to do is get some Castor oil and cut the
>grass.
>Sounds very fun and nostalgic.
>
>Carl Moreschi N4PY
>Franklinton, NC
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "tongaloa" <tongaloa@alltel.net>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 2:29 PM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>
>
> > This is an extremely serious problem with these new radios.
> > Why you could be tuning across the band one minute and next thing you
> > know, your radio's been infected, the disease spreads through the power
> > lines,
> > your vacumn cleaner grabs the cat buy it's tail, tosses it in the
>microwave
> > and it's Chinese food for dinner....
> >
> > On a more serious note...
> >
> > Most of us love the olfactory stimulation resulting from a sensuous
> > tendril of
> > resin smoke. (Comes from melting solder for you appliance guys!). This
>note
> > is to report a similarly pleasurable experience that every guy who
>performs
> > is own lawn maintenance can enjoy. Did it myself last weekend and for
>the
> > first time in my life am actually watchign the grass grow in
>anticipation
>of
> > mowing it again! What am I talking about? Well if you're 50's plus or
>minus
> > a bit, you probably flew motorized model airplanes as a kid. U-control,
> > free flight, or radio control. I've stumbled upon a simple way to bring
> > all those
> > memories of warm summer days and racous engines. Some of you guys
> > already have lights going on in your heads....
> >
> > Back to the lawn mowing. With only about 10,000 sq feet to cut a tractor
> > is out
> > of the question. The only manly option then is a big TWO STROKE mower.
> > Lawn boy, McCollough, Jacobson, take your pick.
> >
> > Now for the meat of this message. Get your ass over to the pharmacy and
> > spend the
> > $3.50 it takes to purchase a 4 oz. bottle of Castor Oil. For the last 20
> > years or so
> > 1:32 is THE mix so also pick up a gallon of regular. Mix 'em up, pour
> > mix in, and
> > commence to cutting. Under the warm sun, as the aroma of burning castor
> > oil makes
> > it's presence known, all your memories of youthful model flying return
> > and before
> > you know it, the tanks empty and your watching the grass, mentally
> > urging it to grow...
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> > M.Todd Miskel wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is
> > > radio, the question of viruses comes to
> > > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc. that
> > > can go undetected by Norton,
> > > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
> > > vulnerable is the Orion to these maladies
> > > and how much damage could one do? With downloading new software over
> > > the net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
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>------------------------------
>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:34:50 -0400
>From: "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>Message-ID: <000901c3430a$f8f07cf0$6301a8c0@AA2IZ>
>References: <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com>
> <3F06E0B7.5070805@alltel.net>
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>Message: 6
>
>Bob,
>
>You are a very, VERY sick man !! :)
>
>73 de Gary, AA2IZ
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "tongaloa" <tongaloa@alltel.net>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 10:29 AM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>
>
> > This is an extremely serious problem with these new radios.
> > Why you could be tuning across the band one minute and next thing you
> > know, your radio's been infected, the disease spreads through the power
> > lines,
> > your vacumn cleaner grabs the cat buy it's tail, tosses it in the
>microwave
> > and it's Chinese food for dinner....
> >
> > On a more serious note...
> >
> > Most of us love the olfactory stimulation resulting from a sensuous
> > tendril of
> > resin smoke. (Comes from melting solder for you appliance guys!). This
>note
> > is to report a similarly pleasurable experience that every guy who
>performs
> > is own lawn maintenance can enjoy. Did it myself last weekend and for
>the
> > first time in my life am actually watchign the grass grow in
>anticipation
>of
> > mowing it again! What am I talking about? Well if you're 50's plus or
>minus
> > a bit, you probably flew motorized model airplanes as a kid. U-control,
> > free flight, or radio control. I've stumbled upon a simple way to bring
> > all those
> > memories of warm summer days and racous engines. Some of you guys
> > already have lights going on in your heads....
> >
> > Back to the lawn mowing. With only about 10,000 sq feet to cut a tractor
> > is out
> > of the question. The only manly option then is a big TWO STROKE mower.
> > Lawn boy, McCollough, Jacobson, take your pick.
> >
> > Now for the meat of this message. Get your ass over to the pharmacy and
> > spend the
> > $3.50 it takes to purchase a 4 oz. bottle of Castor Oil. For the last 20
> > years or so
> > 1:32 is THE mix so also pick up a gallon of regular. Mix 'em up, pour
> > mix in, and
> > commence to cutting. Under the warm sun, as the aroma of burning castor
> > oil makes
> > it's presence known, all your memories of youthful model flying return
> > and before
> > you know it, the tanks empty and your watching the grass, mentally
> > urging it to grow...
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> > M.Todd Miskel wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is
> > > radio, the question of viruses comes to
> > > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc. that
> > > can go undetected by Norton,
> > > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
> > > vulnerable is the Orion to these maladies
> > > and how much damage could one do? With downloading new software over
> > > the net, Is this a real concern? 73, Todd KD7EFQ
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
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>------------------------------
>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:37:00 -0400
>From: "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>Message-ID: <001501c3430b$46866560$6301a8c0@AA2IZ>
>References:
> <Law15-F61xg7F3Dg7yL0002507b@hotmail.com><3F06E0B7.5070805@alltel.net>
> <000801c34304$696a2500$0968b141@oemcomputer>
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>Message: 7
>
>Of course, then one needs to drink brandy... to offset the ...er....
>"effects" of the castor oil. :)
>
>
>73 de Gary, AA2IZ
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@earthlink.net>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 10:47 AM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
>
>
> > I remember the smell of those U control model airplanes and all those
>Cox
> > .049 engines. So all I need to do is get some Castor oil and cut the
>grass.
> > Sounds very fun and nostalgic.
> >
> > Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > Franklinton, NC
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tongaloa" <tongaloa@alltel.net>
> > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 2:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Question and Aroma Therapy for MEN!
> >
> >
> > > This is an extremely serious problem with these new radios.
> > > Why you could be tuning across the band one minute and next thing you
> > > know, your radio's been infected, the disease spreads through the
>power
> > > lines,
> > > your vacumn cleaner grabs the cat buy it's tail, tosses it in the
> > microwave
> > > and it's Chinese food for dinner....
> > >
> > > On a more serious note...
> > >
> > > Most of us love the olfactory stimulation resulting from a sensuous
> > > tendril of
> > > resin smoke. (Comes from melting solder for you appliance guys!). This
> > note
> > > is to report a similarly pleasurable experience that every guy who
> > performs
> > > is own lawn maintenance can enjoy. Did it myself last weekend and for
>the
> > > first time in my life am actually watchign the grass grow in
>anticipation
> > of
> > > mowing it again! What am I talking about? Well if you're 50's plus or
> > minus
> > > a bit, you probably flew motorized model airplanes as a kid.
>U-control,
> > > free flight, or radio control. I've stumbled upon a simple way to
>bring
> > > all those
> > > memories of warm summer days and racous engines. Some of you guys
> > > already have lights going on in your heads....
> > >
> > > Back to the lawn mowing. With only about 10,000 sq feet to cut a
>tractor
> > > is out
> > > of the question. The only manly option then is a big TWO STROKE mower.
> > > Lawn boy, McCollough, Jacobson, take your pick.
> > >
> > > Now for the meat of this message. Get your ass over to the pharmacy
>and
> > > spend the
> > > $3.50 it takes to purchase a 4 oz. bottle of Castor Oil. For the last
>20
> > > years or so
> > > 1:32 is THE mix so also pick up a gallon of regular. Mix 'em up, pour
> > > mix in, and
> > > commence to cutting. Under the warm sun, as the aroma of burning
>castor
> > > oil makes
> > > it's presence known, all your memories of youthful model flying return
> > > and before
> > > you know it, the tanks empty and your watching the grass, mentally
> > > urging it to grow...
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
> > > M.Todd Miskel wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all, With the Orion being almost as much computer as it is
> > > > radio, the question of viruses comes to
> > > > mind. With hackers developing viruses, trojan horses, worms etc.
>that
> > > > can go undetected by Norton,
> > > > McAfee, and all but the very best virus scan programs, Just how
> > > > vulnerable is the Orion to these maladies
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