With all due respect Yuri and others have sadly missed the whole point.
K6SE's endeavours were NOT tests...only the opinion of one guy sitting in a
shack somewhere, using his memory to evaluate multiple receivers. This was
NOT testing guys---DUH!
This is opinion...hello...anybody see the difference?
Some of you are WAY off base in commenting on the operation of receivers you
have never even owned, you have never touched an Orion, K2, or MP and are
probably not priviledged to any quality comparative, lab controlled
testing....yet ye ramble on and on about how much you know, based on an
entirely false hypothesis taken from someone elses opinion. If you take a
look at the top ten list, knowing the deficiencies of many of those rigs,
you have to see the ridiculous rankings which in itself destroys any
credibility of the whole issue.
So, to not get personal, let's evaluate the "tests"
Controlled environment---NO
Receivers tested at the same time--NO
On air conditions the same at all times--NO
Standard of input signals/type/intensity levels---NO
Test equipment used specified--NO
Calibration of test equipment--NO
Calibration or condition/age/options/mods of receivers noted--NO
Backup expert or supporting staff endorsement of tests--NO
Stand up to any standardized method of electronic testing--NO
Use the ARRL criteria or any other widely accepted testing methods--NO
Need we say more?
Was the tester at the Moose lodge listening to disco two hours before
evaluations--? Tinnitus flareup maybe? How about sinus or ear infections, or
swimming or?? How many things affect YOUR hearing on different days?? Mozart
at 110Db can cause receiver desense also:) What speaker or phones...freq
response tested to see if it favors a particular frequency or range? What a
mess of holes in these test criteria.
Earls Ears are NOT a standard on which anyone can rely on for sure. That IS
a known.
How can anyone possibly take this test scenario and the resultant top ten
list seriously? I have been watching the comments and I still see the same
junk science "tests" being run again. And again, the same list, recommended
to those who do not know any better. If this kind of unsubstianted, factless
and harmful information is allowed to overshadow the valuable information
many many others, then eventually the value of this group will be lost. It
seems that the support here is for the personalities and their right to an
opinion, rather than the substance of their information or comments. That is
a very sad occurance and harms everyone.
This may be the most dangerous part because it places the credibility of
this group in a very bad light...that of personalities and friendships
overshadowing good solid reporting, logic and common sense. That some of
these subscribers, many of whom we know are knowledgable and believable,
would jeopardize their own reputations by endorsing such a questionable
approach is at least surprising, and certainly disappointing. If this
reflector allows such to continue without challenge, then where is the
future of dependable, credible information?
The unfortunate reality is that I read a couple of posts thanking Earl for
his "findings" and noting that they would alter their buying pattern because
of it...It is this influence of the unknowing that is the problem...no
problems with Earl or his opinions, I have great respect for Earl from past
information and respect his right to his opinion...however, they should be
treated as "his" opinions and respected as such...rather than facts which
they are not. Buyer beware of what is fact and what is opinion. Tommy
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1. Orion K6SE A/B tests etc.
2. Re: Orion K6SE A/B tests etc.
(Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer)
3. Re: Hiss and click on Orion sidetone (Gary Hoffman)
4. software and logginh programs (applejack)
5. Re: Tnx es my 2 cts ARRL Test Equipment (Cliff)
6. Re: Tnx es my 2 cts ARRL Test Equipment (James Duffer)
7. Re: software and logginh programs (David W LeJeune, Sr)
8. Re: GPS Antenna feedline (WA2BPE)
9. WTS: SOme nice surplus hardware to remote your pegasus or
other RS232 controlled rig... (tongaloa)
10. Re: Argonaut V 1.07 Upgrade Problem ?
(Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales)
11. Re: Argonaut V 1.07 Upgrade Problem ? (Terry)
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To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:13:35 EDT
From: K3BU@aol.com
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] Orion K6SE A/B tests etc.
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Re:
>%5BTenTec%5D%20RE%3A%20Topband%20Digest... etc.
> Hi Yuri,
> What the heck is this subject line??
I dunno, I thought reflector "mailman" would figure out and translate, but I
guess not. I tried to resubscribe back to reflector, but so far no luck,
three
tries and zilch luck.
> IMHO, DX contests are won by stations who can copy weak stations that are
> Adjacent To Strong Stations. (i.e. EU stations running 5 watts to indoor
> dipoles right next to W1AW)
True too, but if your wunderradio cannot discern the weak signal that is, or
not, close to strong station, how good is that? That is the whole point of
Earl testing the radios for discernability of weak signals in the presence
of the
typical BAND noise in REAL life (controlled) situation. TopBanders, VHFers,
moonbouncers know about weak signal reception and requirements, and if weak
signal has a noise barrier that it can not "jump" than all your bells and
whistles in the rest of the radio are useless and you got one dumb SOB radio
(that
might look nice and you love it), but you have no clue what and why Earl is
hearing someone in the noise and you are not.
The handling of weak signals next to strong is more and more desirable, but
if Ten Tec can improve on ability to hear deeper into the noise ("cheap"
Electcraft K2 did), than there is a winner and I too am selling pile of my
radios
and getting two of Onions (ooops, Orions :-)
Again, back in the old days I could build RF stage or preamp with 6EJ7
(EF183) or cascaded triodes that would run circles around preamp with say
6BE6 or
6BA6 (modified Drake line). The reason? Lower internal noise and steeper
characteristic of the tubes, giving superior S/N right there at the input,
before
mixers, phase noise, filter delay, product detectors, audio stages got
involved.
> I would not hold my breath waiting for radio manufacturers to submit
> prototype or initial run radios to you for testing. I think you know why.
I am not sure why, but I thank you for your compliment, you must know more
about myself than I do.
When TS870 came out and Kenwoodsky engineers were proudly 'splaining the
design at Dayton, I pointed out that DSP cannot replace good filters in
their
design and that radio would overload and choke on strong signals. Nooo, they
"knew
better". Sure enough, when radio came out, it was HORRIBLE on overload on
low
bands. Later, they would not admit, but there was engineering change in
distribution of gain between RF and IF stages (and PROMs), which helped
some. But
they used wide crystal filter in 8 MHz IF and crapy ceramic filter in 455
MHz
IF. The result was that still, radio choked on crap that got through the
filters, overloaded stages and DSP was all confused, overloaded and
distorting
signals. I replaced both filters with INRAD 2.1 kHz and that radio jumped
$2000 in
performance class. Huge difference.
If you mean that manufacturers would be afraid of criticism or heavens
forbid, improvement suggestions by consulting with me or others in know,
then I can
understand your "compliment".
As far as WD4K receiving "many compliments" to his comments about "factless
testing" I can understand that, just like so many more people (90%?) eat
McDonalds stuff while fewer (10%?) eat steaks and decent food. Their
respective
comments would reflect their opinion about the quality of food and I bet 90%
would
vote McDonalds "beef" superior to decent steak. They are "right", right?
Earl was against posting his comments to this reflector in expectation of
precisely this response and flames from the TenTecian cult followers. But I
think
there should be discussions about problems and designing features about the
radios, especially with presence of company like TenTec that should be
interested in improving the design in the quest for that Ultimate radio we
all dream
about. They are in the unique position to work with us (or US) hams
especially
with their service and support dept. and policies. We would rather support
US
manufacturer and see them succeed (until they get swamped with commercial
customer orders and dump us poor SOBs? :-)
You can only gain, get better radios from such input and appropriate
response
from manufacturer. But many times, ham radio stuff seems to follow reversed
logic, oh well!
> 73,
> John W0DC
Yuri, K3BU
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:52:24 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@isunet.net>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion K6SE A/B tests etc.
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I MUST grumble. The 6BE6 is a multi grid mixer, never an RF stage, and
never a great mixer, too much noise. The 6BA6, 6EJ7, and 6DC6 were RF
stages in HF radios.
73, Jerry, K0CQ
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:52:25 -0400
From: "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Hiss and click on Orion sidetone
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I don't think that the impedance of the headphones is really the significant
issue. I think you are getting RF into them. I still have had great
success with ferrites, and suggest again trying them. Its quite possible
that there is a surprising amount of RF "in the shack" which has gone
undetected up until now.
73 de Gary, AA2IZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX" <RMcGraw@blomand.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Hiss and click on Orion sidetone
> What do 8 ohm headphones got to do with it?
>
> K4TAX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael A Newell WB4HUC" <mnewell1@austin.rr.com>
> To: "tentec" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Hiss and click on Orion sidetone
>
>
> > Or, Ten Tec could just manufacture a $3300 radio that didn't
> > have hisses or clicks when used with 8-ohm headphones.
> >
> > Just a suggestion.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Mike - WB4HUC
> > Austin, TX
> >
> >
> >
> > >It sounds like your headphones are 8 ohms. I suggest either adding a
100
> > >ohm pad in series with each headphone or get 32 ohm headphones. The
100
> > ohm
> > >resistors can added right in the headphone jack. Just get 2 1/4 watt
100
> > >ohm resistors, and put each on in series with the non-grounded side
wire
> > >going to each headphone.
> > >
> > >Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > >Franklinton, NC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Michael A. Newell, WB4HUC" <mnewell1 at austin.rr.com>
> > >To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:52 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [TenTec] Hiss and click on Orion sidetone
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, mine had the clicks, don't know about the hiss.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike - WB4HUC
> > > Austin, TX
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe W2KJ" <w2kj at bellsouth.net>
> > > To: <TenTec at contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:57 PM
> > > Subject: [TenTec] Hiss and click on Orion sidetone
> > >
> > >
> > > > Howdy folks:
> > > >
> > > > Just got my Orion after an interminable wait and finally read
> > > > enough to put it on the air.
> > > >
> > > > I notice a "hiss" and a "click" on the sidetone when each
> > > > character is keyed.
> > > >
> > > > I am using the Heil Micro-pro headset and have tried other
> > > > headsets of varying impedance to no avail.
> > > >
> > > > The sidetone through the speaker is pure with no clicks/hiss.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone else notice these problems when keying their Orion
> > > > in CW when using a headset????
> > > >
> > > > 73, Joe W2KJ
> > > >
> > > >
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:55:21 -0500
From: "applejack" <applejack@fbg.net>
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Subject: [TenTec] software and logginh programs
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Who has the best logging and operation program for the Pegasus and =
RS-350 receiver? Thanks, Jack
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 06:22:22 -0400
From: Cliff <csegar@mindspring.com>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Tnx es my 2 cts ARRL Test Equipment
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"When you can measure what you are speaking about and express it in numbers
you know something about it. But when you cannot measure it, when you
cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and
unsatisfactory kind. It may be the beginning of knowledge but you have
scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." : William
Thomson, Lord Kelvin, 1824-1907. Physicist
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To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:45:17 -0500
From: "James Duffer" <dufferjames@hotmail.com>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Tnx es my 2 cts ARRL Test Equipment
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Come on guys, didn't you read the "but seriously" following the tongue in
cheek definition. Some people just wear their underwear too tight. \\
73, Jim, wd4air
>From: Clark Savage Turner <csturner@slonet.org>
>Reply-To: tentec@contesting.com
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Tnx es my 2 cts ARRL Test Equipment
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:11:05 -0700
>
>
>On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 05:40 AM, James Duffer wrote:
>>>
>>>Opinion: 1. a belief not based on certainty but on what seems true or
>>>probable. 2. an evaluation, estimation, etc. 3. formal expert judgment.
>>
>>Now that is a good one. We know what an "expert" is, or at least as it
>>was explained to me while serving in the U.S. Army. You simply break the
>>word expert down into its two parts, "ex" and "pert" (pronounced spurt).
>>Now the definition becomes obvious "ex" is a "has-been" and a "spurt" is a
>>drip under pressure. But seriously what is the basis of "formal expert
>>judgement" ? Is it too much different that an evaluation or belief based
>>on fact? Lets not get this too convoluted by bringing in academia logic
>>into the picture (fuzzy logic).
>
>Do you mean this? I hope its a joke. I know a lot of people who refuse to
>go to an M.D. or take antibiotics because they don't trust "experts." I
>see some real harm come from this attitude. I will choose an expert when I
>cannot understand the many variables of my situation and I have found
>experts who are able to do good "science" are quite helpful, and absolutely
>necessary at times. An expert use of common sense with a deeper knowledge
>of the given subject is just what I want. Respecting receiver performance,
>I certainly do not understand all about how the thing works and expert
>opinions help me to make logical choices and better use of the receiver I
>have. I learn a lot from expert evaluations of rigs from the ARRL.
>
>Clark
>WA3JPG
>
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:45:32 -0500
From: "David W LeJeune, Sr" <lejeuned@centurytel.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] software and logginh programs
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I'm real pleased with LOGic6 (www.hosenose.com). Been using it for about 5
years through several upgrades and works fine. Interfaces to both the
TenTec Jupiter and Pegasus software, most Call CD's or qrz.com, and has
other nice features, including contest logging.
Dave K5WNV/OK8ANJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "applejack" <applejack@fbg.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:55 PM
Subject: [TenTec] software and logginh programs
> Who has the best logging and operation program for the Pegasus and RS-350
receiver? Thanks, Jack
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:49:36 -0400
From: WA2BPE <wa2bpe@infoblvd.net>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] GPS Antenna feedline
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While generally correct as to Vp values, some manfacturers dielectric has
some
"quality control" issues (hence Zo isues too) and the classic numbers don't
apply. You can usually expect Vp to be good for Andrew, Times, Belden, etc,
but
watch out for RS and a few others (and even the big names have problems at
times). Many folks have wondered why coax baluns by the formula don't work
right only to find out the calculated length isn't correct. The one sure
way is
to "dip" the coax and calculate the Vp based on the frequency and physical
length.
>From a practical sense, it may not be necessary to enter this number at
all -
depends on your use - if it is just a super-stable 10MHz reference, a phase
delay is probably of little concern. Time, OTOH, may or may not be a worry;
again, it is the application.
73,
Tom - WA2BPE
Carl Moreschi wrote:
> You need to tell the GPS receiver the antenna feedline delay in nanosecs.
> For free space, light travels at 11.8 inches in 1 nansecond. If the coax
> has the hard tpye insualtion material in it, its propagation factor is
66%.
> If the coax has foam insolation, its propagation delay factor is 82%. So
if
> you take the length of the coax in feet and divide it by either 0.66 or
0.82
> , you will get the total delay in nanoseconds.
>
> So 50 feet of coax with hard insolation will be 75 nanoseconds delay. Now
> all you have to do is tell the GPS receiver what your antenna delay is.
In
> the "Control and Query" window, select "Antenna delay" to send the
command.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> Franklinton, NC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Erbaugh" <mark@microenh.com>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] GPS Antenna feedline
>
> > Well, I got things working! I took a piece of RG8X because I had it
some
> > and attached BNC connectors to both ends after running it through the
> house
> > band board into the shack. I used an old PC network BNC T ( again
because
> I
> > had one ) connector as a splice between the BNC on the antenna and the
> > extension.
> >
> > The signal strengths ( I assume that that is the SS column on the
SatStat
> > display - with the clock outside, directly connected to the antenna I
saw
> > numbers peaking around 160, this evening the highest is about 70 ) are
> down,
> > but the clock was able to track 6 satellites in about 15 minutes. Now
to
> > let the clock stabilze.
> >
> > This is probably in the manual, but do I need to adjust for the
additional
> > length of coax that I added? Is there a way to let the clock figure that
> > out?
> >
> > 73,
> > Mark
> >
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:42:08 -0400
From: tongaloa <tongaloa@alltel.net>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] WTS: SOme nice surplus hardware to remote your pegasus or
other RS232 controlled rig...
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I have some Adtran ISU-128 ISDN 'modems' that may be used
over twisted pair, without any other equipment. This means
they may be used over your own pair or a 'dry' alarm pair
(very cheap) from the telco. They may be used this way because
it's possible to set one up to provide clocking. Consumer grade
and many commercial ISU's do not provide clocking.
In any case, this will get your control signals back and forth.
For the audio, a pair of filters as sold for use in isolating a
telephone set from a DSL modem, on the same line, will
do the trick. So, all you have to add is a pair of line matching
transformers (8ohm to 600ohm), a pair of filters, and you're
good to go. You can even apply a small current for sealing or
to run a relay at one end.
Another option for the audio is to put an PeeCee at the remote
and and stream it over the digital connection. IMO, overkill,
but an option anyway...
I've 4 pair of these and will sell for $50/pair plus $9 for
shipping (or pick them up in 30114, Canton GA)
A full manual(pdf) is available at the adtran web site. Configuration
for the setup described above is under the section on 'leased lines'.
Plug ISU128 into the adtran search window.
These are surplus from the local telco and in good shape. They run
on 120VAC and have built in power supplies and all setup is by way
of front panel controls.
Thanks,
-Bob
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To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:32:22 -0400
From: "Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales" <sales@tentec.com>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Argonaut V 1.07 Upgrade Problem ?
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Hi Folks:
Please remember to do a MASTER RESET after downloading the software and you
will
elimintate your problems. Remember too, the reset can be performed without
loosing your
programmed memories. This is explained in your manual.
73,
Stan Brock, WD0BGS
Amateur Radio Sales
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:26:31 -0700
From: "Terry" <w6ru@bak.rr.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Argonaut V 1.07 Upgrade Problem ?
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Hey Stan,
Any chance you can ship my Orion today Red label for Saturday delivery ?
TNX,
Terry W6RU
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