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Subject: [SECC] Need help with antenna launchers
From: k4ab at hotmail.com (Larry K4AB)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:37:19 -1000
Dave, 

Here is an old email from N4BCD that I saved.

Maybe it'll help.

73,
Larry K4AB

Mark Brown to Tom, me 


 I just spent another few hours today helping K8KI get his trap dipole into his 
trees.  All went well except for the bees we stirred up.  With the method below 
you can easily clear a 100' broadleaf.  Evergreens are somewhat trickier due to 
the sticky sap. 

Here's what works for me...
Crossbow or regular bow - doesn't matter.  Whatever you're good with.

Line1 for really high shots = Spiderwire XXX monofilament 12lb test.
Line2 for shots less than 80'  = Stren 17lb (this one is fluorescent)
Other's will probably work, but I literally threw a reel of Berkley Trilene in 
the trash after several consecutive line breaks.

Prepare a 1.5 inch piece of electrical tape.  

Lay your fishing line on the arrow between the nock & fletching so that about 4 
or 5" of line is pointing towards your arrow tip.  Use your tape to go around 
the arrow just behind the fletching.  Now tie your monofilament into a knot 
over the tape.  I usually trim any excess monofilament about 1" from the knot.  
This method I've described here works really well for me - the tape might be 
acting a bit like a shock absorber to the line.  

Now you're ready to take the shot.  I shoot a bow right-handed so I lay the 
reel of line in front of my left (forward) foot. - making sure there's no 
tangles with arms, or bow limbs.  Also make sure you don't have a lot of slack 
or kinks in the line before the arrow leaves.  The shock of that line going 
taut can snap it.  Sometimes I get some nice line burns on my left forearm but 
it's a small price to pay for the height you get.  

Depending on several factors - strength of the bow, angle of the shot, weight 
of the arrow, and wind to name a few, you'll probably want to arrest or brake 
line as soon as it clears your tree notch.  Be careful here.  A gentle hand 
that slows the arrow is better than a sharp jerk that could turn the arrow 
sideways from it's downward path resulting in a stuck arrow.

You've heard the saying "an apple doesn't fall far from the tree".  Same is 
eventually true with arrows.  I've had two stuck arrows fall back to earth a 
few months later when the monofilament deteriorates or breaks.       

A little more about line.  While I like the Spiderwire for shots, it's a little 
weak for tugging Dacron rope through tough spots.  It's a major disappointment 
when the line breaks after you're made that great shot and you're rope is 
halfway up and back down.  To mitigate that I've taken to using the 17lb Stren 
as an intermediate between the light line & rope.  It's more pulling and 
winding but it's more of a sure bet. 

I'll mention this too: NEVER UNDERESTIMATE HOW FAR AN ARROW WILL TRAVEL IF THE 
LINE BREAKS.  One of my arrows came down in the flowerbed of a house 3 doors 
down.  

All told, lost target arrows plus lots of reels of line (line does wear out - 
you'll begin to feel rough spots from abrasion with trees) the price does add 
up.  Compared to the price of a tower though, it almost free. 

73 and good luck,
 Mark

> From: thompson at mindspring.com
> To: sedxc at co0ntesting.com; secc at contesting.com; sedxc at yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 17:36:11 -0400
> Subject: [SECC] Need help with antenna launchers
> 
> I lost my 80 meter array several weeks ago and tried using my bow and arrow 
> (75 pound compound bow) with no success today.  I need to get one end up 45 
> feet and the other up nearly 70 feet.  In both cases I have to stand back 
> about 20 feet to clear lower branches.  The downward rope must also go 
> through or over smaller branches and trees.
> 
> I may borrow a tennis launcher but looking for long term.  First, how do you 
> attach a fishing reel
> to the big bow?   I tried the Ez-Hang but it was not accurate enough and the 
> fishing line would get caught on a branch.  I saw the ham in North GA who 
> has the cross bow which looks too small to go over the 70 foot branch.  I 
> sent him an inquiry but he has never answered.
> 
> Ideas please!
> 
> 73 Dave K4JRB
> 
>  
> 
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