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Subject: [SECC] Fw: [usve] Petition to eliminate Morse code (long)
From: w4nti at mindspring.com (Dan/W4NTI)
Date: Fri Aug 1 17:46:11 2003
Nice post Ben,  unfortunatly it is a bunch of crap.  You see the 'new
breed',  the scum following the NCI goons, intentionally want to turn
amateur radio into CB.

Go read the newsgroups.  See what kind of help they want.  They know it all.
Didn't you know that?   Check out the comments about taking over the
'useless cw segements'.

Sorry Ben.  We are in a fight.  Like it or not.

Dan/W4NTI

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Coleman" <oloryn@benshome.net>
To: <secc@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [SECC] Fw: [usve] Petition to eliminate Morse code (long)


> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:46:25 -0500, Allan & Bridget wrote:
>
> >I hope that this makes some of you feel a little better about the ARRL's
> >position on the matter...obviously the VEs are upset about this as well,
and
> >the petition did seem to drop out of the sky rather suddenly, in spite of
> >the fact that we knew this was going to eventually happen.
>
> Given how fast some countries dropped the code requirement after the
> WARC was over, this doesn't seem so sudden to me.
>
> >Meanwhile, however, I would suggest that we all start putting on our
> >elmering badges and get to work.
> <snip>
> >From my experience, a good deal of elmering takes care of lot of this,
> >and I think in this area we have fallen a bit short.
>
> This I'll certainly agree with.  Whatever the coming rule changes are,
> I think that far more harm will be done to the hobby if we react by
> pulling back and merely berating those enjoying the effects of the new
> rules than by the rule changes themselves.
>
> I suppose it may be a bit gauche to quote oneself, but lately I've been
> feeling the urge to repost a 3-year old newsgroup post of mine.
> Somehow it seems like it may be even more appropriate nowadays:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> From: Ben Coleman (nj8j@mindspring.com)
> Subject: Re: The Truth About Welfare Licenses
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Date: 2000/04/24
>
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:58:02 GMT, pogopossum@my-deja.com wrote:
> >As for going the 'dumbing-down' route - I am in full agreement with
> >you.  I would only point out that this is not a new and sudden
> >phenomenon - either in radio or in society at large.
>
> And I might ask if the decline applies equally to those "Real Hams",
> just in a different area.  As you indicate, those of us who were
> beneficiaries of the last round of 'welfare licensing' often could
> depend on the friendly, encouraging, and patient help of the "Real
> Hams" of our era.  Has that gone downhill?
>
> It takes little intelligence or effort to sit yourself on a pedestal
> and berate those you consider below you.  With a few exceptions, rare
> enough to be regarded as 'personalities' ("CQ CQ CQ.  No lids, kids, or
> space cadets"), I don't remember the "Real Hams" of my ham youth doing
> that.  My perception is that there's a lot more of that going now than
> there was 25 years ago when I first got licensed.  I regard that as
> just as much of a decline in standards as any changes in the test
> requirements.
>
> For those of us who have been in this hobby a long time, it might be
> good to ask how we compare in attitudes and activities to the hams who
> helped us when we were new.  Passing license tests is no longer our
> task - we've pretty much done that by now.  Our task, as was the task
> of the experienced hams who came before us, is to help teach, train and
> encourage new hams to become good in both operational and technical
> areas.  If we can't do that, with just as much friendliness, patience,
> and encouragement as was shown to us, if we can only sit back and
> cynically berate new hams for not being 'up to snuff' in our sight,
> then we're just as much a part of the 'decline in the hobby' as lowered
> exam requirements might be.  Perhaps more so.
>
> Ben
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> http://oloryn.home.mindspring.com/   | micromanage equality results, at
> Amateur Radio NJ8J                   | best, in equal misery for all.
>
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