Got my one and only Q. A 40 CW Q early on. Amazing lack courtsey and operating
skills. Makes me wonder sometimes why I look forward these frustrating
experiences.
Jim AC0E
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1. Re: FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo (Ron Kolarik)
2. Re: FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo (WILLIAM MARX)
3. Re: FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo (Joe Subich, W4TV)
4. Re: FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo (Peter Laws)
5. Re: FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo (Peter Laws)
6. Re: FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo (Jim N7US)
7. Re: FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo (Tom Osborne)
8. Re: FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo (Peter Laws)
9. Re: FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo (Peter Laws)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 16:36:53 -0600
From: "Ron Kolarik" <rkolarik@neb.rr.com>
To: "Phil Sussman" <psussman@pactor.com>, "Charles Morrison"
<cmorrison@lusfiber.net>
Cc: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
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It's called "leader board bingo". Some of us would be happy with
one mode/band some feel the need for all bands/modes plus insurance
contacts......bragging rights at Visalia.
Ron
K0IDT
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From: "Phil Sussman" <psussman@pactor.com>
To: "Charles Morrison" <cmorrison@lusfiber.net>
Cc: <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
>I agree with Charlie, except for two points:
>
> First, this syndrome does not only affect RTTY operators alone, but
> it has been 'trickled' into the RTTY gentlemen's community. Some
> attribute this lack of discipline to removing CW from Ham Testing.
> Others claim it's the moral decay of our society in general. Perhaps
> it is a lack of role models.
>
> Second, comparing hams to animals in a zoo does a serious disservice
> to the animals. Zoo animals generally behave naturally, that is, as
> nature intended. No so with Ham operators or RTTY operators. Zoo
> animals don't know any better, but certainly ham operators should!
>
> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 14:46:47 -0800 (PST)
From: WILLIAM MARX <bmarx@bellsouth.net>
To: Ron Kolarik <rkolarik@neb.rr.com>
Cc: "rtty@contesting.com" <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
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I am of the same school but it probably enhances the participation. I want one
solid Q on a rare one. I think having a Leader board defeats the purpose of a
DXPedition to a very rare entity...
Bill Marx W2CQ
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From: Ron Kolarik <rkolarik@neb.rr.com>
To: Phil Sussman <psussman@pactor.com>; Charles Morrison
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Cc: rtty@contesting.com
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2014 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
It's called "leader board bingo". Some of us would be happy with
one mode/band some feel the need for all bands/modes plus insurance
contacts......bragging rights at Visalia.
Ron
K0IDT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Sussman" <psussman@pactor.com>
To: "Charles Morrison" <cmorrison@lusfiber.net>
Cc: <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
>I agree with Charlie, except for two points:
>
> First, this syndrome does not only affect RTTY operators alone, but
> it has been 'trickled' into the RTTY gentlemen's community. Some
> attribute this lack of discipline to removing CW from Ham Testing.
> Others claim it's the moral decay of our society in general. Perhaps
> it is a lack of role models.
>
> Second, comparing hams to animals in a zoo does a serious disservice
> to the animals. Zoo animals generally behave naturally, that is, as
> nature intended. No so with Ham operators or RTTY operators. Zoo
> animals don't know any better, but certainly ham operators should!
>
> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:14:20 -0500
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
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> I am of the same school but it probably enhances the participation
You mean increases the noise!
> I think having a Leader board defeats the purpose of a DXPedition to
> a very rare entity...
I don't know about defeating the purpose of a DXPedition but Leader
Boards should certainly stop counting after one QSO per band and those
making more than two QSOs per band should see their Leader Board score
reduced in some way.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 2/2/2014 5:46 PM, WILLIAM MARX wrote:
> I am of the same school but it probably enhances the participation. I want
> one solid Q on a rare one. I think having a Leader board defeats the purpose
> of a DXPedition to a very rare entity...
> Bill Marx W2CQ
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ron Kolarik <rkolarik@neb.rr.com>
> To: Phil Sussman <psussman@pactor.com>; Charles Morrison
> <cmorrison@lusfiber.net>
> Cc: rtty@contesting.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2014 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
>
>
> It's called "leader board bingo". Some of us would be happy with
> one mode/band some feel the need for all bands/modes plus insurance
> contacts......bragging rights at Visalia.
>
> Ron
> K0IDT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Sussman" <psussman@pactor.com>
> To: "Charles Morrison" <cmorrison@lusfiber.net>
> Cc: <rtty@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
>
>
>> I agree with Charlie, except for two points:
>>
>> First, this syndrome does not only affect RTTY operators alone, but
>> it has been 'trickled' into the RTTY gentlemen's community. Some
>> attribute this lack of discipline to removing CW from Ham Testing.
>> Others claim it's the moral decay of our society in general. Perhaps
>> it is a lack of role models.
>>
>> Second, comparing hams to animals in a zoo does a serious disservice
>> to the animals. Zoo animals generally behave naturally, that is, as
>> nature intended. No so with Ham operators or RTTY operators. Zoo
>> animals don't know any better, but certainly ham operators should!
>>
>> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:18:12 -0600
From: Peter Laws <plaws@plaws.net>
To: Charles Morrison <cmorrison@lusfiber.net>
Cc: RTTY contest group <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
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On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Charles Morrison <cmorrison@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> Any further reference to RTTY operators being "more professional" or better
> ops needs to be discontinued. It's terrible to hear callsigns that should
> know better calling on the CQ frequency, stations jamming the DX's TX
> frequency, and the constant cat calls from the cops about lids and up.
Not sure it's RTTY ops. Certainly it's ops who don't know what
"split" means. What's really funny is that some of these guys think
they've worked him and send 599 back!
Also, who is UP? He seems to be calling a *lot*. :-)
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:19:39 -0600
From: Peter Laws <plaws@plaws.net>
To: Charles Morrison <cmorrison@lusfiber.net>
Cc: RTTY contest group <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
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YM BWHY ARE EXTRAS SUCH DUMB ASSES /&h&
M VM B,-5Q UP UPUP UP UP UP YOU IDIOP
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:21:42 -0600
From: "Jim N7US" <jim@n7us.net>
To: <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
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Each DXpedition can choose whether or not to have a leader board on Club
Log.
73, Jim N7US
-----Original Message-----
> I am of the same school but it probably enhances the participation
You mean increases the noise!
> I think having a Leader board defeats the purpose of a DXPedition to > a
very rare entity...
I don't know about defeating the purpose of a DXPedition but Leader Boards
should certainly stop counting after one QSO per band and those making more
than two QSOs per band should see their Leader Board score reduced in some
way.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:26:35 -0800
From: Tom Osborne <w7why@frontier.com>
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
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.
>
> I don't know about defeating the purpose of a DXPedition but Leader
> Boards should certainly stop counting after one QSO per band and those
> making more than two QSOs per band should see their Leader Board score
> reduced in some way.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
You are right there, Joe.
What gets me is these guys that brag, "I worked them 27 times on 6
different modes." Why!!!!!
Every time they make duplicate contacts, they cut someone else out of
getting a contact. Everyone doesn't have stacks and 1500 watts to try
and work these DX'peditions. After you work them on every band, chill
and let someone else work them. 73
Tom W7WHY
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:50:55 -0600
From: Peter Laws <plaws@plaws.net>
To: RTTY contest group <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
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6 LANDERS ARE IDIOTS !!!!5WRD
Certainly true of N6UK who not only doesn't know how to use his split
button, but also has defective keying and never mind all the linefeeds
at the end of his call.
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Tom Osborne <w7why@frontier.com> wrote:
> .
>>
>>
>> I don't know about defeating the purpose of a DXPedition but Leader
>> Boards should certainly stop counting after one QSO per band and those
>> making more than two QSOs per band should see their Leader Board score
>> reduced in some way.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> You are right there, Joe.
>
> What gets me is these guys that brag, "I worked them 27 times on 6 different
> modes." Why!!!!!
>
> Every time they make duplicate contacts, they cut someone else out of
> getting a contact. Everyone doesn't have stacks and 1500 watts to try and
> work these DX'peditions. After you work them on every band, chill and let
> someone else work them. 73
> Tom W7WHY
>
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:53:19 -0600
From: Peter Laws <plaws@plaws.net>
To: RTTY contest group <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FT5ZM RTTY is a zoo
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K4MQL K4MQL K4MQL
Some 4s, too. Yes, I'm doing this to shame them.
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Peter Laws <plaws@plaws.net> wrote:
> 6 LANDERS ARE IDIOTS !!!!5WRD
>
> Certainly true of N6UK who not only doesn't know how to use his split
> button, but also has defective keying and never mind all the linefeeds
> at the end of his call.
>
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Tom Osborne <w7why@frontier.com> wrote:
>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know about defeating the purpose of a DXPedition but Leader
>>> Boards should certainly stop counting after one QSO per band and those
>>> making more than two QSOs per band should see their Leader Board score
>>> reduced in some way.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> You are right there, Joe.
>>
>> What gets me is these guys that brag, "I worked them 27 times on 6 different
>> modes." Why!!!!!
>>
>> Every time they make duplicate contacts, they cut someone else out of
>> getting a contact. Everyone doesn't have stacks and 1500 watts to try and
>> work these DX'peditions. After you work them on every band, chill and let
>> someone else work them. 73
>> Tom W7WHY
>>
>>
>>
>>
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