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Re: [RTTY] To DE or not to DE

To: Stanley Zawrotny <k4sbz.stan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] To DE or not to DE
From: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:00:02 -0400
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I admit to not suffering fools gladly.  Even so, are people so stupid or lazy 
as to not think at all???  A RTTY pileup such as I heard on a single frequency 
lasts 30 seconds or longer before it subsides enough for the calling station to 
answer (and be heard).  It must be especially frustrating to them, since it 
ruins their run rate.  Is there any plausible reason to think in that situation 
it would be unclear who you are calling? The obvious shouldn't need an 
explanation.  Operators own the responsibility for the content of their 
transmissions and their behavior, not the developers of MMTTY.

As to the suggestion of gentle emails, I've had enough spittle flecked 
invective (and phone calls, for crissakes) hurled my way in response, most 
suggesting that I mind my own business (?), that I think I'll pass.  In this 
case, it's more satisfying to curse the darkness then light a candle.

Al
AB2ZY

________________________________________
From: Stanley Zawrotny [k4sbz.stan@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:46 AM
To: Al Kozakiewicz
Cc: Jeff Blaine; Stephen M. Shearer; RTTY Reflector
Subject: Re: [RTTY] To DE or not to DE

The problem is simple. That is a default macro in MMTTY. These people just were 
not in the contest. Not everyone is a contester and we have to share the band 
with them. Maybe they are not the problem.

Stan, K4SBZ

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com> wrote:
>
> A particularly annoying example:
>
> Late this afternoon a few rare (for this contest) zones popped up - 12 Chile 
> and 7 Costa Rica.  The pileups are pure QRM anyway, but a number of callers 
> decided that it was a good idea to send the called station twice, DE, then 
> their call three times.TI9GGG TI9GGG DE ID10T ID10T ID10T.
>
> Sheesh.
>
> Al
> AB2ZY
>
> ________________________________________
> From: RTTY [rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Blaine 
> [keepwalking188@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:26 AM
> To: Stephen M. Shearer; 'RTTY Reflector'
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] To DE or not to DE
>
> It's very simple.
>
> 1. If DE as a state name can be a required part of the contest exchange...
>
> 2. Then under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should DE be used as part of the exchange.
>
> 3. There are no exceptions.
>
> Generally speaking, as mentioned earlier, DE is generally a waste of time
> but preferences vary.
>
>
> 73/jeff/ac0c
> www.ac0c.com
> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen M. Shearer
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:23 AM
> To: 'RTTY Reflector'
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] To DE or not to DE
>
> No matter what I do.. WB3LGC 599 05 DE .. get questions...  Shorter seems
> better and depending upon the contest exchange it can be worse...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Hank Garretson
> Sent: 24 September, 2013 2:23 PM
> To: RTTY Reflector; NCCC Reflector
> Subject: [RTTY] To DE or not to DE
>
> The big one is this weekend, CQWW RTTY. http://www.cqwwrtty.com/
>
> Here are some tips that will make everyone's weekend more fun.
>
> To DE or not to DE. It depends, but mostly not. Almost all the time, who is
> sending is clear from sequence and timing. DE usually adds nothing to a
> contest exchange, and DE can be very confusing. For instance, W6SX 599 05 IN
> DE w4xxx. Ditch the DE.
>
> When responding to a CQ, it is generally a waste of time to send
>
> W6SX DE w8xxx
>
> Instead, just drop your call one, two, or three times depending on
> conditions.
>
> CQ TEST W6SX W6SX CQ
>
> w8xxx w8xxx
>
> w8xxx 599 03 CA
>
> W6SX 599 04 MI
>
> TU W6SX CQ ...
>
> CU all Saturday and Sunday. We're going to have a blast.
>
> Diddle Exuberantly,
>
> Hank, W6SX
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